Why are be being forced to choose what era to play in?

[Mobikon-atiesh]

@Joyson-sulfuras

you level 33 tauren warrior

By the way, expect more of this as you argue with Joyson.

Enjoy it!

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Mobikon-atiesh

Exactly! I was waiting for when someone would finally post this

you must have ignored my reply then

@Joyson-sulfuras

nope. 1 paladin that i leveled up should be available in two different versions of the same game, seeing as how i wont be able to play both on the same server at the same time on the same game anyways, and wont be able to interact cross game whatsoever, and that the effort required to make it happen is literally zero, but go on keep being an antagonistic reply bot like ive already explained how everyone on the other side of this argument is, you level 33 tauren warrio

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Mobikon-atiesh

By the way, expect more of this as you argue with Joyson

like i said guys, there is an ongoing effort to discredit me, led by jealous night elves mostly

[Noobshot-benediction]

Im going to go back to refer to very good reasons why copies don’t work. From a person whom posted in the past.

@Valarkin-pagle

However everyone will hedge their bets, copy all their level 60’s to both…and blizzard won’t be able to plot out who is playing what server, how populations will balance out, and that more servers will be created that will never be needed.

@Valarkin-pagle

It’s not about population stats.

Blizzard won’t be able to plot population metrics, ie amount of needed servers, faction balance, etc, based on “copies.”

A copy doesn’t make you choose, therefore there isn’t a sacrifice present from a choice…which can help ensure that the decision is not a capricious one.

How would you expect Blizzard to determine how many servers they need?

How many will be PvE or PvP?

How many are serious of sticking to Classic only, instead of creating insurance?

How many will want Classic only, but become bored later?

and so on and so forth.

Blizzard will do what is cost effective, will retain the most customers, with the lest amount of effort, that additionally removes as much of the guessing game as they can.

Classic ==> TBC.

Option for pure classic that will be a player choice…where you will be responsible for your choice and not them.

[Maully-thunderfury]

@Joyson-sulfuras

by forcing each half of the community to roll new characters in order to play the other version of the game

citation needed on ‘half’

None of us know, but I’d wager that the majority of the community don’t care a bit about keeping their mains in classic forever. The thought of staying on a static final phase classic server for all time is something that likely does not appeal to many.

While it will technically ‘fracture’ the community, I think most of us believe that the people who choose to stay behind are a tiny minority. People don’t care because it’s a non-issue for most of us.

I mean if the issue was you were going to lose a kidney, or didn’t have enough to eat, then altruism and basic decency comes into play. But the issue is that you want to keep your level 60 paladin in classic forever while also being able to copy it to progress into the next expansion. Truly a first world problem that I could not care less about lol

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Noobshot-benediction

very good reasons

opinions and only opinions

[Kaelrynn-area-52]

Here it is.

#nocopies is born.

[Kurogano-thunderfury]

@Chucktaurus-fairbanks

So what you do then is consolidate the vanilla servers when copying everyone to vanilla. Consolidation does not mean you can’t have both.

Do you honestly expect Blizzard to do both instead of the bare minimum? Which would result in one or the other.

Expanding on this a bit. The solution you want would work to allow players to have a copy of their character. Completely disregarding the fact you would now be getting a free character.

It would be heavily exploited. As the only way to accomplish this would be to allow players to copy a given character from their realm to the forever classic realm. In allowing this you allow players to duplicate everything on a factor of x10 at maximum. Meaning a player that has 2000 gold would suddenly have 20000 gold. Thus massively inflating everything in the economy of forever classic.

[Applejakx-thunderlord]

This and I would add that they did multiple surveys on this. They have at least some data on it.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Maully-thunderfury

citation needed on ‘half’

take whatever fraction you want. doesnt matter. stop misdirecting and lying.

[Esperia-whitemane]

@Joyson-sulfuras

take whatever fraction you want. doesnt matter. stop misdirecting and lying.

Maybe you can play one of your neglected alts since you’ve done everything on Classic already.

[Applejakx-thunderlord]

The amount of people that will go to TBC will be far greater than the amount of people that want to stay on a stagnant vanilla server. And the way they are doing this will also nudge more people to make the choice to go to TBC. If that wasn’t the case, they would be doing this differently.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Esperia-whitemane

Maybe you can play one of your neglected alts since you’ve done everything on Classic already

i actually like playing one character

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Applejakx-thunderlord

doing this will also nudge more people to make the choice to go to TBC.

i think this is the most logical argument the other side has come up with so far. makes the most sense.

[Caseofbeer-bleeding-hollow (Caseofbeer)]

Wow that sounds really familiar…kind of like that’s how it’s been for going on 20 years now. Trust me, if they let me choose the MoP “era” I wouldn’t have gone to WoD.

Nothing new is going on here, why you’re surprised is astonishing to me.

[Hawne-blaumeux]

There aren’t going to be enough people playing classic forever to justify allowing copies.

This will keep all the active people together, we know most will go to TBC.

Allowing copies will just mean that there’s going to be tons of unplayed characters on vanilla servers.

You’ll end up with a lot of empty realms.

[Noobshot-benediction]

@Joyson-sulfuras

i actually like playing one character

Then just pick one favorite version of wow to play your one favorite character…

Look ill go first. My one favorite character is noobshot. I want to play TBC as my favorite version. When wrath comes. I will opt out to a TBC era Server and not progress.

IF i liked classic better than TBC i would stay in classic with noobshot. Simple…

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kurogano-thunderfury

It would be heavily exploited. As the only way to accomplish this would be to allow players to copy a given character from their realm to the forever classic realm. In allowing this you allow players to duplicate everything on a factor of x10 at maximum. Meaning a player that has 2000 gold would suddenly have 20000 gold.

what. lol. i have one character, 2k gold. suddenly they multiply my character 10 times? lol what are you even saying dude.

[Applejakx-thunderlord]

Okay so you won’t be able to exploit but others 100% will.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Hawne-blaumeux

There aren’t going to be enough people playing classic forever to justify allowing copies.

copies dont need justification lmao. its a two step process. press control c, then control v.