When are those ret nerfs going live?

[Kinndyvoker-sargeras]

We cant play the game with ret pallies running around wild, our range is less than some melee abilities and it relies on hitting the lottery to win games so ueah you dont see us

[Thebulk-crushridge]

@Renae-stormrage

how you can get more telegraphed than the glowing Ret Paladin dropping even more glowing mechanics all over you.

Big chinese symbol over your head and glowing bright blue with a big dumb cat that wasn’t there before

[Manfighting-westfall]

@Kinndyvoker-sargeras

our range is less than some melee abilities and it relies on hitting the lottery to win games so ueah you dont see us

At least the dispel is going (or being toned down). I haven’t had nearly as much issue with the Fire Breath DoT getting dispelled as I thought I was going to this season, but hooooooooly jesus christ this rotational dispel bullhorse is actual madness. Especially with Ancient Flame being neutered having our Burnout engine ripped away with no thought is just devastating.

@Thebulk-crushridge

Big chinese symbol over your head and glowing bright blue with a big dumb cat that wasn’t there before

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t there also at least a couple globals between when the damage starts and when it ends?

[Getoffme-bloodscalp]

@Renae-stormrage

if you’re getting hit by 90k DS you didn’t press any defensives

see this is the kind of player that needs to have its manila sham rage excised without anaesthesia

it’s so intensely troll that the devs gave the only defensive that can reliably and fully answer ret burst to other rets

[Thebulk-crushridge]

@Manfighting-westfall

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t there also at least a couple globals between when the damage starts and when it ends?

Yeah, a few combos that have to happen first. You’re generally already 3 seconds into the cd before dmg is actually dealt

[Omnislasher-terenas]

A half-brained Ret can literally train any class. This idiocracy has to end NOW

[Adroi-tichondrius]

@Renae-stormrage

Sorry if you don’t like the truth, if you’re getting hit by 90k DS you didn’t press any defensives. All this stuff trackable too, so it’s not like you couldn’t see it coming.

Okay troll. There is a reason why nearly EVERY game I played tonight in 2s or RSS had a ret. Do you get that? Do you understand why they are good? All those ret palis didn’t just get magically more skilled over the last couple weeks. The class is broken. This is why they are broken. I can’t waste turtle the second wings happened assuming damage is going to kill me. Ret has more goes then I have defensives for. If I used a defensives the second wings happened every time I would lose every game. Rather, I have to try and mitigate damage as best as possible. The problem is… ret is killing people from 50% in a second. There isn’t time to react to it and even if there is, I may not have a tool to counter it.

Do you seriously think taking more then 50% of someone’s health in .3-.4s is reasonable?

Sorry, but if you have been doing arena since 2010 and your best is 2k, why are you even responding here? Maybe learn your own class first before you start telling other people how to play theirs.

[Darkombra-frostmourne]

@Renae-stormrage

Sorry if you don’t like the truth, if you’re getting hit by 90k DS you didn’t press any defensives. All this stuff trackable too, so it’s not like you couldn’t see it coming.

The main issue is the frequency of it. It’s far too often, way to long, and does way to much damage. And thats just among 1 of the plethora of issues ret has in its grossly broken state.

[Lastarria-emerald-dream]

@Manfighting-westfall

At least the dispel is going (or being toned down).

Where did you see this?

EDIT: found it

@Linxy

Judgments of the Pure has been overperforming

[Renae-stormrage]

@Adroi-tichondrius

There is a reason why nearly EVERY game I played tonight in 2s or RSS had a ret. Do you get that?

Yeah class is popular after a rework, so? They should just quit cause you don’t want to see them?

@Adroi-tichondrius

I can’t waste turtle the second wings happened assuming damage is going to kill me. Ret has more goes then I have defensives for.

Maybe instead of whining about Ret you should be whining about the problems your class has and get improvements.

@Adroi-tichondrius

Sorry, but if you have been doing arena since 2010 and your best is 2k, why are you even responding here? Maybe learn your own class first before you start telling other people how to play theirs.

My 2k rating is higher than 90% of people who play this game, the forums are also open to anyone with a subscription. You could go start your own “Gladiator+” forums, I even got a name for you, “The Crybaby Corner.” It fits since all you “Gladiators” seem to do is cry about other classes instead of getting good.

[Kennie-malganis]

[Lurklox-emerald-dream]

They should rework shaman next!

[Adroi-tichondrius]

@Renae-stormrage

Yeah class is popular after a rework, so? They should just quit cause you don’t want to see them?

The majority of rets I’m seeing are first time players.

@Renae-stormrage

Maybe instead of whining about Ret you should be whining about the problems your class has and get improvements.

Ok troll. Or we could talk about the outlier spec that is wrecking the ladder.

@Renae-stormrage

My 2k rating is higher than 90% of people who play this game, the forums are also open to anyone with a subscription. You could go start your own “Gladiator+” forums, I even got a name for you, “The Crybaby Corner.” It fits since all you “Gladiators” seem to do is cry about other classes instead of getting good.

Getting good? Again, try getting good with ret first before you talk. Must suck to know you’re going to get nerfed after having accomplished nothing.

[Bloomsday-sulfuras]

It’s really difficult to make anything out of those screenshots without proper context. What were you doing while the ret was setting up their CDs? Where are your teammates?

Also worth noting that judgement of the pure is getting nerfed, so we really need to wait to see how Rets are after that nerf before we ask for more.

[Renae-stormrage]

@Adroi-tichondrius

The majority of rets I’m seeing are first time players.

Even better, you want Blizzard to nerf them so these first time players just quit the game?

@Adroi-tichondrius

Ok troll. Or we could talk about the outlier spec that is wrecking the ladder.

“Troll” “Troll” “Troll” I’m not trolling you, you just don’t like real answers, sorry.

@Adroi-tichondrius

Getting good? Again, try getting good with ret first before you talk

Try? I already am good, could care less about what your opinion of me is lol.

@Adroi-tichondrius

Must suck to know you’re going to get nerfed after having accomplished nothing.

It’s okay to be angry, but wasting your time throwing insults or even trying doesn’t do you much good, I don’t care about your opinion.

[Sodachuggerx-stormrage]

@Renae-stormrage

Try? I already am good, could care less about what your opinion of me is lol.

Are you though?

[Adroi-tichondrius]

@Renae-stormrage

Even better, you want Blizzard to nerf them so these first time players just quit the game?

Not new players, just fotm chasers.

@Renae-stormrage

“Troll” “Troll” “Troll” I’m not trolling you, you just don’t like real answers, sorry.

Ok troll.

@Renae-stormrage

Try? I already am good, could care less about what your opinion of me is lol.

2k isn’t good enough for you to tell others to “get good.” Learn how to play your own spec first.

@Renae-stormrage

It’s okay to be angry, but wasting your time throwing insults or even trying doesn’t do you much good, I don’t care about your opinion.

You care so little about my opinion that you’re posting in my thread and continue to respond. Good job captain.

[Renae-stormrage]

@Sodachuggerx-stormrage

Are you though?

Yes? By all definitions of the word, I am “good” am I great, definitely not at PVP.

@Adroi-tichondrius

Not new players, just fotm chasers.

That’s not what you said though, you said new players, keep changing your story to fit your needs?

@Adroi-tichondrius

2k isn’t good enough for you to tell others to “get good.” Learn how to play your own spec first.

I’m just recycling the advice you would give someone else if they were in here crying about your class.

@Adroi-tichondrius

You care so little about my opinion that you’re posting in my thread and continue to respond. Good job captain.

I mean someone has to voice an opinion that differs from your crybaby echo chamber.

[Adroi-tichondrius]

@Renae-stormrage

That’s not what you said though, you said new players, keep changing your story to fit your needs?

That is what I said. First time players. People playing ret for the first time. Not new players.

@Renae-stormrage

I’m just recycling the advice you would give someone else if they were in here crying about your class.

No one is crying about Survival.

@Renae-stormrage

I mean someone has to voice an opinion that differs from your crybaby echo chamber.

Oh, got it. Saying anything about overpowered specs is crying. Reported for trolling.

Well, enjoy your continued nerfs.

[Seenax-tichondrius]

Game is trash now. Ret players defend it but they know it is broken. Arena is completely unplayable. They need to TEST before they release this stuff