When are those ret nerfs going live?

Probably running for their lives.

How much contribution do you expect from teammates vs that kind of condensed and concerted damage?

It is, but I don’t think that’s the point OP was making. This alludes to an entirely different sector of the spec’s overperforming mechanics.

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How do you know? Were you in the match with them? If they were running for their lives how did the Ret catch up to them?

A lot. The OP has two teammates. Did they just sit and watch the ret get everything loaded up? They didn’t do anything to proactively prevent the death?

You have to look at a spec as a whole. It’s okay if Ret does good damage if their utility / defensives take a hit. And their utility / defensives are taking a sizeable hit with this nerf.

Be purged by the light! I had a wsg that was similar to this 8 rets on alliance, 7 on horde. It was the crusades out there

This is Dunning-Kruger at maximum from this ret fried rice.

Hint, the phrase you’re looking for is “couldn’t care less”

Just not possible to go against ret/arms/fist or sham
Too strong

Just have to play ret/arms/fist or sham. :slight_smile: