What the hell to do with the Forsaken

Funnily enough there actually ARE two instances of light-based torture deployed by the Alliance in its history but I’m not going to tell you where they are because I want to force you to learn more Alliance lore.

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not the way she uses it.

Voodoo has always been something that was a grey area but Voodoo in real life can also be a very positive religious practice. I liked the nuance of the Horde using Shadow/Void. Gul’dan and his Shadow Council orcs using Necromancy to protect the Horde, those kinds of things…

What Alleria did in Shadows Rising was repulsive.

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Er, Gul’dan of all people might have been the worst possible example you could have used for a nuanced, caring old horde member.

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You are right. but Gul’dan is the Horde’s founder so… it’s kinda hard not to talk about him in relation to the Horde.

I was actually hoping for in-game veves for each Loa in BFA, or the use of terms like Mambo, Houngan, or Bokor, but alas :cry:

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That is a weapons grade hot take.

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As much as I think that would be reasonable, given how the story shapes up, I expect the whole thing to be glossed over and ignored / forgiven. Up until some convenient moment when it suddenly actually did not go away or something. Like Danuser’s comment about alt-Draenor orc-draenei conflict “did not just go away”. Or like Stormheim was treated as an odd accident (given how it played out) and after all the events of Legion seemed like something to put aside. Yet suddenly it’s oh so relevant.

That is an odd narrative approach of convenient amnesia IMO.


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I’ve been looking for the details on that specific topic since last June (sad :rofl:)

The closest I know to a “number” - if we consider (very generously), every not anti-Calia forsaken to be automatically pre-Cata forsaken (and in such case almost guaranteed - lordaeronian) it is

the number of Forsaken who may welcome their presence is not fixed

So, any logical attempts to analyze what happened to population, and “tracking” migration of the scourge to find out how many and in what regiongs then became the forsaken, will still bash into numbers popping out of thin air for whatever direction the narrative will take IMO.


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They could have developed one of the Forsaken. Not taken a living Alliance character and used that. I mean, the history off Blizzard developing any existing Horde characters is pathetic.

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I really wish that would’ve been the case “yesterday”. But as long as we have a combo of current narrative leads and Anduin + Jaina “sometimes oddly functioning moral compass” Proudmoore, I don’t think there will be much not in a facepalm department on that front.


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If you look at my early posts in this thread you’d also see that I’m fine with the Alliance sharing Lordaeron with the Forsaken and I actually think it’s pretty feasible but that take wasn’t nuclear enough to get discussed much further lol

You know, the general discussion forum has a lot of similar questions about game systems.

… I’m starting to notice a trend here …

Also there was a funny news story about some politician decrying WoW still relying on a race-based war.

But honestly, from an in-world perspective, do we really believe there isn’t a single Human within the Horde? A single “Blood Elf” in the Alliance? I mean Baine is basically in the Alliance so I think they’ve got a few Tauren.

Screw it, any race can be either faction.* Also, factions can do PvE content together. Next expansion: “World of Warcraft: Peacecraft”

*But only if you pay $60 at the in-game shop and take on a permanent “Traitor” debuff causing NPC in your new faction cities to generally shout obscenities at you.

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lol, what?

Looks like I goofed up and conflated two vague memories:

There was a BlizzardWatch article regarding ending the race war. (https://blizzardwatch.com/2020/08/13/wow-race-war/)

And there was a politician running for office who apparently played WoW as an Orc Rogue - which apparently made for some ridiculously dumb commentary by their opponent regarding leading a double life enjoying stabbing things and not going to jail.

(https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19842704)

My mistake, sorry!

//Both are still stupid lol.

Well he’s not wrong.

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Yes, but who DOESN’T enjoy stabbing things and not going to jail for it?

You know, reading that sentence makes me question some of my life choices.

I remember there was a representative running for office who was slandered once in smear campaign on 2012 just for playing WoW. The smear was “this person spends most of their free time in an imaginary place called Azeroth. Can you trust them to make real life decisions?” As a wow player I found that very comical.

Depends, are they a Horde or Alliance?

Damn I think we are talking about the same thing! Colleen the Assassin rogue! I wonder what Colleen is up to these days.

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From what I can find she’s still representing Maine’s 110th District in the state House of Representatives

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They need to kill off Calia instead of Sylvanas.

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