I implore you to grow some empathy for Blood Elf players whose beloved race is being picked clean by vultures and are getting nothing in return. We didn’t even get a complete customization pass.
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theyre part of the kirin tor. every one knows it. kirin tor is not aligned with either faction currently. therefore not alliance aligned and would contradict development commentary from 2018. this is getting weird…
See, I don’t think they are. Aethas was actually trying to cajole Quel’thalas into breaking ties with the Horde prior to being accused of being a Horde loyal traitor. The Sunreavers were Kirin Tor first and Horde second. Though that might be a slightly less secure position now, tbf, since the whole race riot thing.
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I personally think that the Silver Covenant should be Alliance and that they should be booted from Dalaran because of their part in the purge.
I also find it sad that Silvermoon and Dalaran had been allies for over 2000 years. Yet they were happily going to execute Kael’thas and hundreds of other Blood Elves. The sad thing is, is that Keal’thas had been a citizen of Dalaran and studying there. They knew him and they still were like Oh the race has been practically genocided out of existence kill them.
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I gave a rather basic description a moment ago for the Sunreavers.
I think they started out very much with a stronger Horde bent than the SC.
But at the same time yeah Aethas truly believed in the Kirin Tor.
They really get muddled both by what historically happened and how blizzard wrote them.
Thus complicated.
I can’t disagree with this sentiment.
The Purge was nothing more than an attempt at genocide.
They should be imprisoned for war crimes.
Given the state of the Alliance at the time and Garithos’ apparent hold on control, I’m less surprised.
Dalaran was still reeling from the Scourge and hadn’t cleanly return to business as usual.
I’d even bet Garithos’ actions there could feasibly have factored into their decision to go neutral.
I place the full blame on Garithos’ actions and edicts firmly at his own feet.
Though I’d question the individuals who were willing to go along with him without complaint.
The SC has no members on the council.
They’re a paramilitary force that serves Dalaran, and places their allegiance with the Alliance.
Thus Alliance aligned.
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Let’s say I’m Australian and live in Australia but I’m such a die-hard Maoist that I support China in everything.
What country am I a part of?
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Oh I very much think they are of Dalaran.
Just that they are aligned with the Alliance. (I suppose more politically than anything else)
I read maoist and I just thought of sounds cats make.
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Maybe that’s why he killed all those birds.
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The cat sampled in this video is a meowist.
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I believe we’re at a point where we all should worry more about the actual player happiness (“Final Fantasy 14”) and what went wrong in the long run instead trying to block each other about a hair color.
Sometimes you need to sacrifice your own pride so we all can move along as a community. Accepting the requested changes is a sign of maturity and dignity. There are plenty of other ideas which can be given to the Blood Elves exclusively.
I do understand your feelings but in reality you do not care about this at all if it doesn’t come up. And that’s also true for the hair color discussion. It simply doesn’t affect you in the slightest, especially in pvp.
Yes, it boils down to this. And they are “wanted”, that’s why it is called a “request”.
I think the root of my posting lies with the reasoning that I have read all of you for such a long time and know how I want to interact with each of one here without anyone knowing me.
I think this posting contradicts with other statements in the past where the game director mentioned the Void Elves being another flavor of High Elves, yes?
The emphasis was on the tabard and the mount available to the Alliance which easily opens up the discussion better rather focusing on who gaslights and baits whom. I’m sorry that you feel this way but as far as I can judge the past topics about this, you are surrounded by people who want to win a politician discussion at any cause.
What about the Throne of Thunder scenario and raid?
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“What me and my friends want” is not “player happiness”.
I totally agree.
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If wow goes down because of a hair color it wasn’t recoverable anyways.
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They are not part of my community. They want to hurt my community.
They have already gotten a compromise with the skin tones but no that’s not enough.
I support black and white hair colors. I don’t support other things because it’s just a slippery slope. They’ll demand blonde, then brown, then red, then paladins even though there’s no lore basis for such, then Silvermoon to round out their high elf fantasy, then deletion of Blood Elves for encroaching on their perfect pure blonde haired blue eyed sus elf fantasy.
Hard no.
If Blizzard wanted them to have blonde hair they would have given it to them when they stole dev time away from the Blood Elf customization pass.
I would not be happy having something I love poached to please a loud but extremely small minority of Alliance players. What about my happiness. Don’t I deserve happiness too? Or am I not a person to you?
From a purely numbers game standpoint, there’s far far far more Blood Elf players than Void Elf players and not all Void Elf players care about the blonde haired blue eyed perfect pure suspicious elf fantasy.
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I do agree - but given how this topic has been going on for a decade (I think), it is at the time to close this chapter for good.
Yes, agree. The elf-situation is well known topic and adds only to the bigger and more on-going problems, especially on the Alliance-side. I’m pretty sure it would give them a small boost in players if these hair colors would be available to them. And at the moment, they truly need any help they can get.
“They”? You mean “Us”. This is one of the core problems I have read time and time again here on the American forums. You really shouldn’t think this way because it’s insensitive. You’re still interacting with human beings. And yes, the game is being driven by it’s war gimmick but the Horde isn’t the only faction who had a connection to blond elves.
Your happiness is an egoistical issue where you would go to the defenses about a hair colorization while not losing anything on your side at all. You simply do not like the idea how another fair-skinned elf version could have the same options available as you. Instead on focusing on the actual problem, the game director, you channel your dislike towards players (“them”) instead the actual core issue.
Do not get me wrong, I do understand where you come from and how important faction and race pride has to be in such games. Channel the anger in productivity and actually rally for more unique Blood Elf features. Warmongering because of hair colors is unhealthy in my personal opinion.
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If you’ve actually been reading these threads, you would know we have tons of requests for belf customization.
And Zandrae in particular posts his list every so often.
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Yes. Same goes to the splendid Worgen topic as well which has a lot of great ideas.
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Then you’re all welcome to drop it.
Ion doesn’t consult with us personally about whether the hair colours should be added and we’re denying it to you. Blizzard chose not to add them when it was an entirely logical time to add them when they added everything else, this entire discussion is a refusal to accept that decision.
The chapter could be much more easily closed by the people actually choosing to keep it open.
As is yours.
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It’s a reasonable request which is why it will keep on going for many years to come.
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My community is the Blood Elf community and the High Elf community means harm to it. If they didn’t they’d take their compromise and stop demanding more.
Their demands and being unwilling to accept compromise is an egotistical issue.
I lose what little is left that is unique about the race I main, enjoy, and am deeply invested in the lore of.
What would I get in return for making a race neutral bait and switch when I didn’t sign up for that?
I care about Blood Elves. I don’t want them to lose what little they have left of an identity.
I can multitask.
Clearly you don’t or you wouldn’t be attacking the thing I love and personally insulting me by calling me egotistical for wanting to protect what I love from vicious poachers.
Excuse me. I’ve done that. In fact I’ve kept a master list for a long time. However unlike high elf fans who keep making an issue I don’t post it over and over and over again.
Here’s my list right here.
Blood Elves have several subgroups which we would like to see more customization for.
Farstrider Fantasy:
Farstriders are the Blood Elf ranger faction. They have nature themes and are seen in Warcraft 2 and 3. They’re an important part of the Thalassian military.
Customization features which appeal to the Farstrider Fantasy are:
- Tattoos like the one seen in Warcraft 2.
- Feathers in hair for nature themes.
- Arguably braids both long and short to keep hair from being caught in bow strings.
Magister Fantasy:
Magisters are the Blood Elf caster fantasy. Powerful mages of Quel’thalas and an important part of the Thalassian nation.
- Runic tatoos.
- Longer hairstyles for ladies.
- Eyes that match spell color effects for various casters such as orange for fire.
- Hair crystals.
Blood Knight Fantasy:
Blood Knights are the Blood Elf Paladin faction. Once gritty, they’ve been redeemed by the Light.
- Scars because close combat injuries happen.
- Torn or damaged ears.
- Light colored tatoos to go with the golden eyes.
Other additions:
Class:
- Druids — Sin’dorei magisters have manipulated nature for ages. If Kultirans can be Druids, why not? They can be motivated by a desire to heal the Dead Scar and can have a redemption arc like Blood Knights did.
- Shaman — Some people are requesting this. The healing to the Dead Scar narrative can be used here too technically.
Hair:
- Strawberry Blonde hair color.
- Pure white hair color.
- Two-tone hair colors.
- Luminescent two-tone light hair. (Similar to DI fire hair but light.)
- Possibly unrealistic anime hair colors.
- Since Void Elves are getting our skin colors can we get their hairstyles?
- Afro-ethnic hairstyles like afros and dreadlocks to go with our dark skin colors.
- More hairstyles for all races would be great tbh.
Facial Hair:
- Wizard Beards.
- More options in general, see Night Elven implimentation.
Skin:
- Freckles
- Shiny/Metallic skin tones to reflect the magical nature of Blood Elves.
Ears:
- Ear armor.
Light Forged themes:
- Halos
- Auras
- Glowing/Light tattoos
- Gold tattoos
- Light runes
- Light miasma
Dark Ranger Theme:
Dark Rangers are undead Rangers but use the Blood Elf rig. The skins for them and eyes for them already exists and it’s just a matter of turning them on. They could also add a Blood Elf rig to Forsaken as a toggle or choice but Forsaken players might not like that.
- Unlock undead skin for all classes.
- Unlock red eyes.
The more out there themes:
Darkfallen Theme:
Darkfallen are undead Blood Elves found in Northrend. They’re vampyres and tried to join The Horde during BfA.
- Undead Skins
- Red eyes
- Bat-like ears
- Claws
- Fangs
- Possibly bat wings.
Felblood Elf Theme:
Felblood Elves are Blood Elves who overloaded on the fel and mutated. They have bright colorful skin, horns blackened hands, and little feathery winglets.
- Colorful skins with darkened cracked hands.
- Unlocking DH horns for all classes.
- Wings/winglets, dark, light, possibly matching hair color.
Please let me know if I missed anything.
The Blood Elf identity is important to me.
I know you have a hard time thinking of Blood Elf players as people but if you prick me I bleed.
I will never support Blood Elf assets for Void Elves so long as High Elf fans remain unempatheic to our needs.
Until Blood Elves get a full customization pass I don’t particularly care to lend my energy to helping anyone else. High Elf fans never try to help us out, why should we sit back quietly and let them pick our avatar clean?
This is what a full customization pass looks like:
- Runic Tattoos
- Farstrider Tattoos
- Scars
- Hair feathers
- Jewelry for men
- Afro-ethnic hairstyles
- Separating mustache from beard so we can choose combinations
Until I see my needs met, and see others pushing for meeting those needs I’m not going to ally with those who want to do my favorite race harm.
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