Sounds like you would be happier playing Hero’s of the Storm or League of Legends.
10 sets seems a bit of an exaggeration. I can’t be bothered with being a badass either. Just using old stuff I earned. Blademaster’s trinket on a bear is never not fun. But to each their own.
I mean that’s kind of peak wow to minmax gear for a niche activity.
There is a balance… you keep acting like TW dungeons are something the game needs to be balanced around. It doesn’t. It is a 100% a chore that doesn’t reward anything of importance outside of the weekly chest. You keep saying “god mode” but you also keep refusing to acknowledge that they purposely changed the scaling to Chromie Time where twinks were already doing this because – and I know this is hard to understand – it was fun for them.
You can still use that gear though… so what is the issue?
Yep, and it still exists.
With the changes to TW dungeons that now use the ‘scale content to player’ instead of the old ‘scale player to content’, none of that old stuff is viable.
Yes it is hard for me to wrap my brain around this. I don’t understand how 1 shotting everything is fun. You are not getting challenged in anyway. Why even have the Q content to begin with? Its a waste of time. Why not Blizzard just mail the TW box every Tuesday?
Disingenuous at best, thanks for your time.
Yep, you very much are and I am glad you realize it.
You can still use it though, it just means you are gimping yourself. I don’t see the issue with that since they want to slog through old content anyway.
Because that isn’t how the game works? Let me give you an example – I have to run 5 TW dungeons. I can form a group of level 80s and do it. I can do a random pug. Now the first pug has no twink, it takes 15 minutes. Nothing comes close to remotely killing anyone because it is TW stuff. The second group has some leveling players everything is fine. The next group has a twink that blasts through in 5 minutes, unless I needed the gear which again is useless since you get better gear in a day of playing, it is done. You can stay or leave the group. You have all the choices in the world. Your solution though is to force how you want the game to play on other people instead of having the willpower to just play the way you choose.
I am done with this – everyone complaining is just being disingenuous to be disingenuous. There is no issues going on here. It is literally crying to cry and it is a very sad state of reality that we need to force ourselves on other people. Blizzard changed it – they knew what they were doing. Get over it and move on. I promise this isn’t going to end your life and it will have very little impact on the way you play. Go do current content and touch some grass after.
Idk, there is / was something beautiful about having fully gemmed enchanted weapon oils, every legendary, bis trinkets, and consumables. And now why bother if inferior levels just make the content stupid.
Though it’s inspiring to level a toon to twink with glaives
ilvl 60 gear is what the dungeon drops. This isnt an exploit.
Im sorry that a lower level with 3 buttons has to be scaled up to compete with players that have every ability unlocked, but nothing being done here is exploiting.
You keep using these words, I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
Okay, done scrolling through this thread. Lifestealing Fury Warriors have been a thing since the Shadowlands squish (over four years now). If it is deemed a problem, all Blizzard has to do is add even a one second ICD to that enchant and it’s kaput.
Y’all’re some goobers.
Not an exploit.
However, it is probably an oversight.
This (ilevel 60 dungeon drops) was the lowest ilevel for TW drops before they lowered the level requirement to 10 this last patch.
For comparison, dungeon blues from non-TW dungeons are ilevel 24 at 10 and ilevel 30 at 11.
So I would not be surprised if the TW gear gets downscaled at lower levels.
They have adjusted other gear that wasn’t downscaled correctly in the past, though they have also ignored some (including some that still exists today).
Even if they downscale this gear, low levels will still be OP, and will still have access to everything they have had now for multiple expansions (like TBC socket gear).
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It shouldn’t be. Plus we had Remix.
I said before this launched that WoW just isn’t designed for having level 10s and level 80s in the same group. We’ve never had this before. TWW dungeons are 70-80, CT dungeons are 10-70, some dungeons have higher minimums and TW was 30-45+ (depending on expansion).
Fundamentally content scaling is bad design. Period. The only way to make it work is for you to get weaker as you level. That doesn’t feel good. If content doesn’t scale, it doesn’t matter that you get weaker as you level because you’re doing new things.
The TWW prepatch downsacaled WoD dungeon gear from ilvl 56 (Warforged) to 29. If they do this, what happened to the lessons from that?
It’s worth adding that TW literally doesn’t matter. There’s no competitive element to it. All we’re doing is making levelling slightly faster. That’s it.
Blizzard may well hit this with the nerf hammer, however. Another case of “fun detected”.
Ah so m+ is the only valid part of the game eh? Good to know.
I’m not wrong actually, you’re just willfully ignorant in thinking you know more than you actually do.
It’s cute that you think your small handful of exploiters represent a majority. Also says alot about the community that people would defend exploiting and preventing their team from playing. Perhaps you should stop thinking you get to grief other people. For that matter, if you’re so convinced that myself and others are a minority, why are you so desperate to shout us down? What are you afraid of?
So again playing your toon and doing content to earn gear from content is a chore. Why are you here again?
Pot meet kettle. Why are you so intent on being allowed to reduce a 5 man group activity into a one man movie with 4 NPC teammtes that didn’t ask you for it? You’re literally sitting here whining about how you should be allowed to one shot everything even when it prevents other people from playing and yet you scream about me wanting to force my play on other people. Talk about projecting.
You’re the outlier, so take your own advice.
Only disingenuous people here are yourself and a few others. You sit here and whine about why you should be allowed to one shot everything, yet will simultaneously demand classes/specs you don’t like be nerfed for m+ because “no one else can get a key invite because (class/spec) is too op.”
In other words it’s perfectly fine for you to demand something be nerfed for everyone for the all of 1% that push m+ by blizzard’s own stats. Yet if I dare say people shouldn’t be allowed to one shot everything on low level toons and prevent 4 other people from playing, suddenly i’m the bad guy that wants to “force everyone to play my way”. You think it’s perfectly fine that you should be allowed to waltz into runs and force a 5 man activity into a 1 man movie, but woe be unto the person that dares speak sacrilege and say they don’t want to be part of your 1 man movie. Woe be unto the person that dares say they want to actually participate in the run they signed up for instead of just watching another person play.
The only ridiculous thing here is you thinking you should get to rob 4 other people of the ability to play and that the game revolves around you.
You keep throwing around the word chore and talking about how it’s this big massive slog to actually have to play the content and your character. So again why are you here? Why are you forcing yourself to play something you clearly hate? And if you’re only there for the weekly chest as you claim, why are you continuing to run TW beyond the initial 5 runs? If you’re continuing to run TW after the initial 5 for the chest, it’s not about the chest as you claim.
Says the guy acting like the entire game below max level is balanced and should be balanced around the very small minority of people that play twinks. I’ve had my share of disagreements with Julaalu before, but he is not even remotely saying the entire game should be balanced around TW. You’re the one that brought that up, not him. All dude said was that content needs to be balanced period, be it raids, TW, m+ or what have you. It shouldn’t be so hard it requires frame perfect execution to the point blinking at the wrong time kills you, but it should at least require you to be conscious at the keyboard and aware of what you’re doing.
And you know what’s fun for the non-twinks, actually getting to play the content and being able to cast more than one spell per mob. I know it’s hard for you to comprehend that you’re not the center of the universe and people exist that actually want to play the content they signed up for. You are allowed to seek out fun just as I am. If you want to get a group together and one shot everything 24/7, you do you. Again you’re allowed to seek out fun, BUT not at the expense of 4 other people. They have a right to actually play the content they’re signing up for and not be relegated to an NPC in your movie. The moment you stepped foot into that public content it’s no longer just about you, but the team, which is something you like to pretend doesn’t exist.
finally looked in that mirror eh?
Did a lot of runs in TW and I mean a lot,
met only once 11lvl oneshotter.
Issue does not exists and it is not an exploit.
Time walking is ment to be quick.
The dumb thing that they did is retarded…
Sigh at lizzard for failing again due to being them… get gud blizzard, really its not hard…