This entire expansion has been anti-pug

This argument isnt us arguing the game is great or perfect in any way, its people who are successful explaining to you why you’re a failure.

Several solutions have been offered and for some reason your countering with a critic score as if it reflect on us in some way.

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Hell I’m not even successful lmao, I’m an LFR hero, pretty much since its inception

You’re defending bad design. And that’s exactly what it is. It will hurt the game long term.

5.4/10. Fail. Trash.

Nah, I’m telling bad players how to succeed.

The game will be fine, promise.

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5.4/10 tho

yikes

Youve used that 5.4 like its some kind of gotcha point and I feel obligated to let you know its embarrassing. The game has a huge list of problems that need resolving, none of which are the cause of your inability to run keys.

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You have the audacity to call others trolls but your spamming the exact same thing you say over and over as if it means anything, lmao.
King of the BAIT.

You’re 100% right OP.

It’s also a fundamental mistake for the design team to make the game anti-pug. Because it’s the pugs who have kept the game alive all this time. Cross Realms, and early group finder add-ons where what kept this game rolling.

The current pug scene is very hostile to off meta specs, and 10-13 keys are virtually devoid of good players as they have nothing to gain from running them. So pushing your own key has become way more difficult than it ever was if you happen to play off meta specs.

I had a 13 key this week. I invited people to it with good IO scores, lots of runs on their characters. What happened? The healer left before the final boss because he didn’t like how the tank made a pull. Now I have a 12 key. Guess what kind of players I can find to join my 12 key? Not ones capable of clearing the content. I can sit there looking for well over an hour for players who know what they’re doing. Good players have no incentive to run this content with the low item level reward.

I had close to a 2100 io score in BFA, running 15 and 17 keys. Now I can’t even get invited to 15’s. Sometimes I’m able to sneak into a 13 but it’s almost always because they want me to mind soothe and that’s it. And only really pro players are going to invite me for that reason. MOST other groups aren’t smart enough to know I can do that or they have something else that can do something similar.

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Bad player tho

yikes

We got a regular Ben Shapiro over here

yep like the game being horribly unrewarding to play, including to pug

Somehow here I am with none of the problems youve been crying about. As the same class you claimed were unfun and undesirable. How odd?

Yep this expansion is definitely anti pug.

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feelsgoodman

looks like your precious devs actually looked at the numerical data and agree with me lol

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Idk they really didn’t touch much of heroic which you swear up and down is meant to be easy for pugs.

They did indirectly. Nerfing M+ means people will be doing higher keys and getting better vault rewards, and that will make heroic go more smoothly.

ALSO

They are going to increase gear rewards as well soon. If you look at all the rage, it is pretty clear they will do something.

I win.

:slight_smile:

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That’s some serious mental gymnastics. Definitely gold medal for you.

Thanks. But while I won the battle, the war rages on. Next, we must all lobby Blizzard for more gear. Keep fighting the good fight! Do not let up! Victory shall be ours!

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Man, last time I lobbied blizzard I just got a forum vacation, definitely not more gear.

I’ve almost exclusively pugged up to 14s and 9/10 heroic.

It can be draining at times, but overall I’ve found the experience fulfilling. I don’t think I’m going to be able to pug heroic sire or 15+ keystones any time soon, but I don’t think it’s necessary for the near-highest difficulty content to be easily puggable.

This expansion has been anti everything except time gated grinds, which is a contradiction but still accurate somehow.