Once again any tank CAN clear but to think its equal is silly. Paladin is superior to all tanks with exception of DK in ST threat which lets be honest is not even a mechanic anymore.
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Just wait til ICC.
Bears will rear their heads.
Since they are the best H LK tanks.
Should we nerf them now so theyâre not better than paladins?
Tell that to ret paladins.
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The wait till ICC argument is always kind of meh. Paladins are best tanks and healers by a large margin with the most utility on top of that. So to say wait until the very end of the game where most players will probably quit after the 1st LK Heroic kill is kind of lame. Same argument with warriors being the âbestâ when they are full bis lol. That has already had doubt thrown on it as sims are showing them not the #1 dps and its in full 277 gear which very few people will ever get or be able to use for longer than a week if they do.
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Sims are a joke, sorry.
Weâll wait til the reality of the situation.
Again, tell that to ret paladins.
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Well I appreciate your opinion but unfortunately it is irrelevant when sims are widely accepted much more so than nostalgia or personal feelings. Even if warriors are the top dps who cares the games over. I do not think paladins should be nerfed warriors should just be buffed.
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must be a dream that I was able to tank each level of content as a warrior with zero issues back in original wrath, yup, must never have happened.
Stop being a meta slave and play your class. Everything is viable this expansion.
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Except warriors will be doing just fine.
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/faerlina/ahlaundoh
I wonât take an overtuned paladinâs opinion on the matter, thank you very much.
I donât actually follow your logic on this.
- Ret pally got buffed.
- Prot pally and Prot War are both very good, but popular opinion is that pally is better (I think theyâre much closer than people realize).
- Because Ret got buffed, you want Prot nerfed?
If I am mistaken in my interpretation of what youâre saying here, pleaseâlay it out clearly so thereâs no room for misunderstanding. As it reads so far, I donât think anyone could follow this and agree.
So you clearly do not know who this warrior is if you are linking his logs. He has a guild who revolves around buffing him and on top f that he actually switched to warlock because warrior was so trash.
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Eventually youâll pull you head out of the sand and fix that chip on your shoulder.
No idea why you have chosen to just be mad instead of play the game and have an enjoyable time.
Again, my point is his dps is almost as high as his warlocks.
Come ToGC heâll probably be full Warrior. The scaling of gear is immense for Warriors versus everyone else.
If mages didnât have ignite munching they would contest that.
If representation is the issue. That is, ret pallies were being overlooked for raids because they do too little dps, then it follows that prot pallies are being too heavily requested in raids because they have too much survivability.
Too little dps > underrepresented
Too high survivability > overrepresented
Get it?
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I actually agree with this. I would extend Shield Block to have full uptime so they have some clear advantage and a more sensible rotation. I would probably look for ways to increase their overall armor value a bit as well. They are supposed to be the premier physical damage mitigation tank.
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This is not entirely true. the fights where warrior would excel such as cleave yes but all others there is a 10-20% dmg difference now you may see it as 1-2k dps and think thatâs nothing but when converted to a % its very big. I am not even advocating for Fury anyways prot warrior should be buffed you can hold onto fury is fine and it will be op, ok sure but warriors are the worst at literally everything they do outside of pvp.
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The ilvl difference was supposed to be the buffs to warriors. It obviously did help in Ulduar but now thinking about it, becomes limited in ToGC.
Raiding for the last tier in any expansion is always a sad thing too, because by the time warriors start passing classes in single target they do need to be near 277.
I would have to agree with this. Sims donât compare with live data, and may not factor in all variables of the equation.
I think this explains why you have lost people on the issue. Representation isnât actually important. Viability is. Sure, meta slaves will do the fallacy thing and say that if it isnât meta, it isnât viable, but thatâs not actually how the game plays (or ever has). Viability is a simple pass/fail; either itâs worth bring to raid for some reason, or not.
In this sense, Warriors are perfectly capable of any current content, although it seems that many struggle with (40% buffed) Alg. However, I personally know a Warrior tank who handles it just fine, and he knows several others who do as well. Basically, they are viable, but people want the lazier/easier option.
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