The lack of a tank spec for evoker is really showing why this game is cutting corners

I dont know about that, professions are actually a thing now and have there own end game which is cool, on top of all the reputation stuff.

I am pretty happy we dont have to do any daily grinds like in legion or bfa. I prefer weekly stuff like raiding or doing a bit of arena. The forced daily log-in was lame.

It feels like mop to me and if they can put out content faster and do some good balancing i think it will be successful.

Eh? I’d play it. I usually tank on classes that can tank. WTB warlock tank ngl. But a geomancer would be cool too.

I’ve always disliked profesions in virtually every game I’ve played. I am not sure what it is about them but I just can’t make my brain like it so it always feels awful. usually I just pick up herbalism and mining on every charactr and sell all the matts I collect.

Wish we got scenarios backs :frowning:

But MoP IoT and Timeless Isle were both such amazing solo-ish outdoor content. I hope we get something like that in dragonflight.

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Less options for a new race isn’t ‘shaking it up a little’. It’s just less options.


Dracthyr Evoker should have been a 4 spec race.

When you make a race and lock it into a single class, the class should have covered all corners


I think hero class is a passe term. There arent any hero classes anymore.

This is not necessarily true. The presence of a melee spec can absolutely hurt those who want to play Evoker (or who like this current design). I main a feral druid and have since TBC. With the hyper-performance focus many in the WoW community adopt, playing a feral druid whenever balance is perceived to be better at every turn reduces the ability to get into many groups. This includes far more groups than just the upper echelons where the difference in performance ceiling might make a difference in the ability to complete the content. I’ve been kicked from many groups who invited me as a DPS druid as soon as they learned I was feral. If there wasn’t a balance spec, then either I wouldn’t have been invited at all if feral was still so undertuned or they would’ve known they were getting a feral druid from the jump and decided it was okay.

Before DH the last new class was Monk, a class that had three specs. Further, not only did they have three specs on release, two of the specs had some of the most unique class mechanics Blizzard ever introduced in the game. You may be right with your assessment of DH and Evoker, but you couldn’t possibly be more wrong with the class before DH.

This is just verifiably untrue. Empowered spells make up a central part of the rotation; there is a 2 minute CD to make the next Empowered spell instant, but after that you’re hard casting them. The primary filler spell about half the time is a standard casted ability. The ST spender ability is channeled over 3 seconds.

To make sure it’s clear, I am not arguing with the opinion that it’s not acceptable for Blizzard to only have 2 specs for Evokers. Being that it is an opinion, there isn’t a “right” answer. But some of the arguments you are bringing up as justifications for that opinion are either not considering an important aspect or verifiably inaccurate.

Settling for less isn’t what I would call “shaking things up”.

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Not every new class has to have a tank. It’s okay that Evokers don’t have one. Acting like it’s some major issue with the game is silly.


complaining just to complain. there are always a few who will never be satisfied. chronic complainers

I’m far more concerned about how many 18-year-old specs are undeveloped/unfinished.

Giving Drcathyr a tank spec would have been lazy.

  • Destruction was the first ranged spec since 2004.
  • Restoration was the first healing spec on a hero class.

This was well over due. You have 6 options to tank. Pick one.

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they are really just reskinned DHs

You realize there has been nothing but melee added to the game for 18 years and the second people who despise melee get a new toy you gotta throw a tantrum like an 8 year old cause you didn’t get a 4th melee. Get over yourself. Been waiting nearly twenty years for more casting options.

Stop speaking for “everyone else” I do not want more melee or tank options.

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I don’t know if it shows they are cutting corners. I just think they never intended on giving the class a tank. And that likely has more to do with balance among classes than any lore. But I’m not against them making a tank spec or allowing Dracthyr to be more than one class. Especially Warrior, since they are canonically Warriors.

I do not. I’m glad they finally added another caster spec/class.

So your statement has been debunked.

Considering the players have been asking for many other classes to get tanking specs (With Shaman probably being the number one option), I think it would have been a HUGE disservice if they had made an entirely new class with a tanking spec before exploring an older class’s ability to tank.

Shaman are the perfect candidate to be tanks if another one is ever considered.

Totally agree tanking and healing is less rewording, and harder to get in to, uow many times dose a raid lead kick a tank for not know a fight compared to a dps, tanking well not hadd is harder thank dpsing, healing well easier still requires paying attention to something othere that your abilities bar

We need a Dragonknight Spec (like Dota 2)

It’s almost like I said the last 2 classes or something. I’ll help you with your math a little bit. Evoker is 1, DH is 2, Monk is 3. See how Monk isn’t among the last two classes there?

Blizzard wasn’t lazy a decade ago when MoP was around. They’re lazy now. Any new classes they release are going to be half-baked and incomplete. That was my point. I don’t get why you’re talking about monks at me right now. I know they were designed well, especially on release. I wasn’t saying otherwise.

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