The High Elf Love Thread 🥰

[Lavashart-dalaran]

I do mean faction identity and i disagree Its not dead. But If we give in to this and others it will.

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

A race people don’t have to play? Don’t see how that can be bad for the game. Players typically like having more options, not fewer.

7 years of seeing people constantly acting as if their wishful thinking that High elves can be dropped in the lake of playable characters without making any sort of wave it’s something that will happen for sure…

insert sad crying cat picture

[Huxlley-moon-guard]

Noones quitting over Void Elves.

Anecdotal, but I have a few friends who actually quit over Velves, though that had nothing to do with helves and everything to do with feeling that the franchise finally lost what drew them to it to begin with; a deep and consistent lore.

[Belitt-pagle]

@Guzzle-barthilas

I’ve seen it mentioned (mostly by helfers trying to offer something in return), I’ve never seen it requested.

Eredar allied race

I think the Eredar, or a faction of them would have complemented the horde faction pretty well. If the story were told right the orcs and eredar could have a lot in common. Both were tainted by the fel. It would be cool to see orcs help another race over come their dark past as they did. It could give the horde a space ship to even the palying field from a military point of view. And it could set up some cool game play later in the game. It would give the horde a version of the draeni model. …

Why The Man'ari Eredar Should Be Playable

They have custom Underwear. [image] I mean, what’s the point of adding custom Underwear to a Race if nobody will ever see it? Gotta justify spending those art resources, Blizzard

Man’ari Eredar Allied Race

Man’ari Eredar should join the Horde. They have been a major part of the story and deserve continuity. They have something in common with the Horde, an enemy with their blue Kin and now those Light Bound Naaru following sycophants. Plus they’re red. What could make them more perfect? If you’re concerned about them being “hostile to everyone”, make a new faction. It’s not like they haven’t done it with everything else. The draw of the Horde in vanilla was they they were the swolliest of the swol…

Rakeesh and playable Man'ari Eredar

Velen’s son Rakeesh was the Man’ari that Kil’Jaedan cruelly ordered to the Exodar to kill the Naaru O’ros in Legion. Since Rakeesh was a demon, he should, in theory, still be alive somewhere as we did not slay him again on Argus. When we finally defeated Kil’Jaeden, his sentiments were surprising for me. In the end, he admitted his regrets, and his envy of Velen’s vision, and for this, Velen calmed him and put him out of his misery. I’ve seen a few people bringing up Man’ari here and there as a…

[Broflake-illidan]

I think its much the other way around. Helves would be ideal as development costs would be relatively low. All the assets exist.

You would still need to implement the time to code it, the quest to unlock it, their portrait, enabling what armor they can or cannot use depending on class etc etc.
it takes time and effort and money, and there is nothing to gaurantee them that it will gain them more people.

on the other hand?
Ogres?
Jinyu?
Something that is brand new and looks completely different and unique has a greater chance to bring them in. high elves don’t have that, especially because they already exist.
you also need to consider the possibility of alienating a significant portion of your base which has been done by some MMOs and been costly as a result. It is not worth it.

[Lorithyn-agamaggan (Lorithyn)]

I doubt people would quit on mass if High Elves don’t get added, but I’m equally sure that not many would leave if they were added

[Bourbonboxer-lightbringer (Bourbonboxer)]

I see… My mistake

Its like this to me:

1. Adding the high elves now with a struggling void elf story line would be Blizzard admitting they were wrong.

2. Adding them with the void elves in existence would cause two varieties of the same genre to fight over the same small screen space for narrative

3. I still believe that they need work in terms of customization or model structure to be added.

4. Im of the firm belief that allied races are going to be a BfA-only system

[Lavashart-dalaran]

Please don quote Mortis. Thats disingenuous and you know it. He’s a jokster.

[Cezol-darkspear]

Or did you hit your funny bone?

You are a funny bone.

basic fundamentals of Horde vs Alliance?

Honestly not even sure Blizzard understands it. BFA is the Alliance vs Horde expansion. and it’s in the barn with Warlords.

Show’s how much the idea matters beyond “we fight each other every once in awhile”.

[Belitt-pagle]

Please don quote Mortis. Thats disingenuous and you know it. He’s a jokster.

We don’t all track every forum user’s history and he’s just one of many that proves the request of playable Eredar for Horde is a pretty extensive request.

[Huxlley-moon-guard]

it takes time and effort and money, and there is nothing to gaurantee them that it will gain them more people.

Well, if Classic is proving anything, it’s that the power of nostalgia is not to be under-estimated. The draw for some people to helves is nostalgia.

on the other hand?
Ogres?
Jinyu?
Something that is brand new and looks completely different and unique has a greater chance to bring them in. high elves don’t have that, especially because they already exist.

Wait… Ogres and Jinyu don’t exist? Also, I think the Kul Tirans are proof enough that Ogres would probably have a small population of players. Out of all the Allied Races, Kul Tirans are the least successful if we’re judging by metrics of players actually playing them. Then again, I’m all for options.

Judging by the sheer number of velves, however, I think the helves would be a monumental success. They might even beat velves at the most played Allied Race.

[Lavashart-dalaran]

Also all those threads garnered very little support as players realize its quite ridiculous.

Honestly not even sure Blizzard understands it. BFA is the Alliance vs Horde expansion. and it’s in the barn with Warlords.

Show’s how much the idea matters beyond “we fight each other every once in awhile”.

Liar, The expansion tanked because of the shoddy implementation of yet another grindy AP device, a shoddy implementation fo Azerite, classes that weren’t even viable for an entire patch. But sure, its the story and NOT any of those.

[Lorithyn-agamaggan (Lorithyn)]

Makes sense to me, and I somewhat agree with most of those points. I just think that it means High Elves would have to come at a later date. Probably as something to help sell a new expansion

[Lavashart-dalaran]

Its not extensive its 3 thread spread out over months. With no traction. Period.

And with that i leave, cus ive got better things to do that demand my attention. So long everyone.

[Guzzle-barthilas]

To be entirely fair, one of those is asking for them for the Alliance and one is a joke. It’s not hard to miss something that minor.

[Firewoman-spirestone]

/Void Elves was his choice, a choice that has been backfiring since it happened.

Not ‘backfiring’ when Void Elves are so popular. lol

[Midare-area-52 (Midare)]

We don’t all track every forum user’s history and he’s just one of many that proves the request of playable Eredar for Horde is a pretty extensive request.

You’re taking someone that is well known for posting very thirsty and in jest posts far too seriously.
It really doesn’t help your argument.

Well, if Classic is proving anything, it’s that the power of nostalgia is not to be under-estimated. The draw for some people to helves is nostalgia.

How did nostalgia work out with WoD?

[Cezol-darkspear]

Yes, it’s all of that, AND the story.

No one cares about Alliance vs Horde past our battlegrounds and our sickomode interactions with our leaders.

Adding High Elves wouldn’t ruin this for the general consumer, we’ve already seen High Elves fighting and killing the Horde, no one threw a fit back then, they won’t now.

Not ‘backfiring’ when Void Elves are so popular. lol

Yup, cause of the model and aesthetic.

You surely can’t mean their rich and unique background and story, because in that case, they are a failure.

[Belitt-pagle]

You’re taking someone that is well known for posting very thirsty and in jest posts far too seriously.
It really doesn’t help your argument.

You act like I’m supposed to know that. Even if true. He’s just one of many others.

[Huxlley-moon-guard]

Not ‘backfiring’ when Void Elves are so popular.

Backfiring when the decision has spawned a discussion on these forums that has not had a single day pass since the velves were announced, wherein people consistently state that they wanted was helves.

If the velves were meant to be a compromise or replacement for helves, it failed hard. I’d say that qualifies as backfiring.

Now, if velves were meant to be their own thing, not related to helves at all, then I agree, they haven’t backfired at all, they’re just extremely underwhelming.