Temporary Sharding

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

i think 2500 Horde 2500 Alliance is healthy

BTW that’s higher than the server caps were in vanilla, nor were they faction specific.

[Gnocci-emerald-dream]

The answer is simple:
Existing WoW accounts on one shard, returning and new accounts on the other.

You’re welcome.

[Xanthak-durotan (Xanthak)]

I am really, really curious about something, though.
Why is Blizzard’s current server technology so crappy? Why can’t it handle more than a trickle of players in one area at once? I mean, it’s kind of crazy when you think about it. I understand that it’s an old game, but at the same time, that’s not really an excuse, IMO. Maybe I’m just not knowledgable enough to be criticizing here, but I’m so sad we’re having to think about this in the first place.

As one person said. It’s on the cloud. But, that’s not exactly the reason why they can’t handle it. The cloud, when used properly will save you money. This means, running minimal hardware all the time. Mega servers like the ones used on private servers, are expensive to maintain and upgrade. So the same software running in say, 4 mini servers is less expensive than one mega server.

But the kicker is this. Where the one mega server was aquired and built with the prospect of volume spikes in mind, it’s also a waste of money when the majority of the time only 20% of the cpu is used. So what the “cloud” can do is that they’ll say, “ok as your load increases, we’ll automatically create new servers for you. That way you will save money” Unfortunately, this takes a few minutes. So by the time the new mini servers get brought up, the system is already hosed. It’s the nature of an MMO. And it’s the nature of the commerce project I’m working on now handling millions of transactions in a matter of minutes.

What people need to understand is that it’s not that Blizzard CAN’T do it. It’s just that they won’t because of the cost incurred.

I’ve been doing this with fortune 500 companies and startups a like for a while now. It’s all about money.

[Fateweaver-misha (Fateweaver)]

They seem to think they’re some huge majority.

Funny, isn’t this the stance you’re taking? Thinking you’re in the majority in saying you think sharding (in any capacity) is a good idea?

“Other sites” ?

Because other sites TOTALLY represent the majority of WoW players both current AND those waiting on Classic™.

[Fateweaver-misha (Fateweaver)]

Nothing but fear mongering and supposition.

Same post …

Do you really want to sit in queues all day?

Pot meet kettle…

[Fateweaver-misha (Fateweaver)]

@Katerina-mannoroth

If they set aside server assets for a concurrency of 100,000 players and no sharding, only for a Million players to turn up to play on launch day, they have a major problem.

Sharding can address it, everybody possibly gets in(as they make use of BfA server assets via sharding, as undoubtedly, most of that Million came from BfA), and the substantial % of “tourists” in that Million Player rush can get their handful of time in seeing the sights (and corpse runs) before realizing it isn’t for them and logging out for the last time in a long while to come.

Meanwhile, without sharding, everybody except the lucky intial group, is sitting in queue and Blizzard is freaking out about how to address the massive login queue…

More fear-mongering from the pro-sharding apologists.

EDIT: Yet MORE fear-mongerin…

@Twidget-wyrmrest-accord

How does it feel to be 1 of 1000 people in the starting zone when you can’t move, get constantly dc’ed, get to watch rubberbanding for an hour instead of actually getting something done?

Temporary sharding of the starter zones will be fine, and at this point, if anyone wants to get anything done at all for the first week is going to be REQUIRED.

@Galdor-maelstrom

Would you rather they launch with five times as many servers, and three months down the road merge them? Would you like to see four other players with your name and various server identifiers attached to them? Eg: Galdor-Maelstrom, Galdor-Stormrage; Galdor-Thrall, Galdor-Sargeras.

@Twidget-wyrmrest-accord

it is going to crawl at a snails pace for days. But you just keep decrying Sharding and we can all sit around with our thumbs up our butts on launch day because the servers will be so bogged down we wont be able to move.

@Twidget-wyrmrest-accord

If you think we are going to be able to do ANYTHING without sharding for the first week you are completely out of your minds.

Enjoy your dc’s and frozen servers.

@Fallanaa-area-52

Sharding launch areas is a necessary evil.

[Brockthorn-malygos (Brockthorn)]

Yes, was on ND this afternoon and the crowds in the Barrens were absolutely unbelievable. It wasn’t unpleasant because people were grouping up for quests instead of competing, but I’ve never seen so many people in a zone at once, including when I played on Nost. And ND seems a lot more stable than Nost was.

I was on there launch day. I have got to say it was a memorable moment. The sheer number of characters…dancing, dueling, just running around. No one raging because they couldn’t get their quests done.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

Yes, was on ND this afternoon and the crowds in the Barrens were absolutely unbelievable. It wasn’t unpleasant because people were grouping up for quests instead of competing, but I’ve never seen so many people in a zone at once, including when I played on Nost. And ND seems a lot more stable than Nost was.

I was on there launch day. I have got to say it was a memorable moment. The sheer number of characters…dancing, dueling, just running around. No one raging because they couldn’t get their quests done.

No we were just waiting in queues, or servers were just crashing and down for days.

[Brockthorn-malygos (Brockthorn)]

No we were just waiting in queues, or servers were just crashing and down for days.

On ND ? That did not happen to me at all. And the pop grew throughout the day…I remember seeing 10K online at one point.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

No we were just waiting in queues, or servers were just crashing and down for days.

On ND ? That did not happen to me at all. And the pop grew throughout the day…I remember seeing 10K online at one point.

Oh sorry, didn’t realize that was about what PS realms did.

[Fesz-cenarius]

Yes, was on ND this afternoon and the crowds in the Barrens were absolutely unbelievable. It wasn’t unpleasant because people were grouping up for quests instead of competing, but I’ve never seen so many people in a zone at once, including when I played on Nost. And ND seems a lot more stable than Nost was.

I was on there launch day. I have got to say it was a memorable moment. The sheer number of characters…dancing, dueling, just running around. No one raging because they couldn’t get their quests done.

No we were just waiting in queues, or servers were just crashing and down for days.

And yet, somehow vanilla not only survived but thrived as the player base actually increased into the millions.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

Yes, was on ND this afternoon and the crowds in the Barrens were absolutely unbelievable. It wasn’t unpleasant because people were grouping up for quests instead of competing, but I’ve never seen so many people in a zone at once, including when I played on Nost. And ND seems a lot more stable than Nost was.

I was on there launch day. I have got to say it was a memorable moment. The sheer number of characters…dancing, dueling, just running around. No one raging because they couldn’t get their quests done.

No we were just waiting in queues, or servers were just crashing and down for days.

And yet, somehow vanilla not only survived but thrived as the player base actually increased into the millions.

Yep with a new game noone had played before in one of the most well known franchises.

So if your saying WoW can survive adversity I guess you’re saying it will have no problem surviving sharding in the starting areas.

[Fesz-cenarius]

Yes, was on ND this afternoon and the crowds in the Barrens were absolutely unbelievable. It wasn’t unpleasant because people were grouping up for quests instead of competing, but I’ve never seen so many people in a zone at once, including when I played on Nost. And ND seems a lot more stable than Nost was.

I was on there launch day. I have got to say it was a memorable moment. The sheer number of characters…dancing, dueling, just running around. No one raging because they couldn’t get their quests done.

No we were just waiting in queues, or servers were just crashing and down for days.

And yet, somehow vanilla not only survived but thrived as the player base actually increased into the millions.

Yep with a new game noone had played before in one of the most well known franchises.

So if your saying WoW can survive adversity I guess you’re saying it will have no problem surviving sharding in the starting areas.

It will survive not having sharding and without sharding Classic will have the added benefit of being the truer classic experience.

You keep doing you and trying to sabotage classic since you lost your battle to prevent it from being made in the first place, though.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

Yes, was on ND this afternoon and the crowds in the Barrens were absolutely unbelievable. It wasn’t unpleasant because people were grouping up for quests instead of competing, but I’ve never seen so many people in a zone at once, including when I played on Nost. And ND seems a lot more stable than Nost was.

I was on there launch day. I have got to say it was a memorable moment. The sheer number of characters…dancing, dueling, just running around. No one raging because they couldn’t get their quests done.

No we were just waiting in queues, or servers were just crashing and down for days.

And yet, somehow vanilla not only survived but thrived as the player base actually increased into the millions.

Yep with a new game noone had played before in one of the most well known franchises.

So if your saying WoW can survive adversity I guess you’re saying it will have no problem surviving sharding in the starting areas.

It will survive not having sharding and without sharding Classic will have the added benefit of being the truer classic experience.

You keep doing you and trying to sabotage classic since you lost your battle to prevent it from being made in the first place, though.

Keep pretending classic was ever going to be a time machine

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

You keep doing you and trying to sabotage classic since you lost your battle to prevent it from being made in the first place, though.

what did he do to battle it being created?

[Xecks-stormrage (Xecks)]

what did he do to battle it being created?

posted in support of the wall of no post.

[Mogar-stormrage (Mogar)]

Ion literally made a comparison that someone playing in 2005 could fall asleep, wake up now, and shouldn’t be able to tell the difference. A time machine is precisely what Blizzard wants Classic to be.

[Fesz-cenarius]

Yes, was on ND this afternoon and the crowds in the Barrens were absolutely unbelievable. It wasn’t unpleasant because people were grouping up for quests instead of competing, but I’ve never seen so many people in a zone at once, including when I played on Nost. And ND seems a lot more stable than Nost was.

I was on there launch day. I have got to say it was a memorable moment. The sheer number of characters…dancing, dueling, just running around. No one raging because they couldn’t get their quests done.

No we were just waiting in queues, or servers were just crashing and down for days.

And yet, somehow vanilla not only survived but thrived as the player base actually increased into the millions.

Yep with a new game noone had played before in one of the most well known franchises.

So if your saying WoW can survive adversity I guess you’re saying it will have no problem surviving sharding in the starting areas.

It will survive not having sharding and without sharding Classic will have the added benefit of being the truer classic experience.

You keep doing you and trying to sabotage classic since you lost your battle to prevent it from being made in the first place, though.

Keep pretending classic was ever going to be a time machine

You keep doing you and trying to sabotage classic since you lost your battle to prevent it from being made in the first place, though.

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

what did he do to battle it being created?

posted in support of the wall of no post.

he posted the wall once in response to someone asking for Blizzards current stance

you lost your battle to prevent it from being made in the first place, though.

Lol, what battle? What did he do that was ‘battling’ against it being made?

[Fesz-cenarius]

And the inaccurate troll once again rears his head.

Begone.