are there suppose to be chests we open up from the vision in the vale? I thought you were suppose to just kill stuff to get the reliquaries until you die in those
Exploiting requires knowing that what youâre doing is unintended. Given the publicly available information, how could someone know what they were doing was unintended?
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Just chiming in as someone that was suspended and it was lifted earlier, I donât really blame blizzard for it, iâm glad they kept looking into how it was done and realized killing mobs isnât an exploit so they pulled back the reins and fixed it. I donât hold any grudge, just glad they didnât stay silent and let us all suffer and instead came back and retracted it and admitted the mistake. Fair to me. I donât blame them for banning 5k or however many people and then sifting through to understand more during the early hours of the ban, thatâs always been how theyâve done it.
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Blizz continues to cut corners, and these sort of things are a result of that.
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He owes apologies to a lot of people in this thread. Itâs not just this thread with Nobully either. He must be the life of the party /s.
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No no, SL/SL. Siphon Life/Soul Link. It was insanely tanky and drained a LOT of health. It was a really strong spec.
You canât have both in vanilla, or itâd be a monster.
Well, I only got enough for one in Uldum and none in Panda landa so Iâm good. But if I had gotten more I wouldâve used them I think because I didnât know we could only use them once.
Thanks for the info.
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haha yeah, during Vanilla I was very deep affliction with some destro and ruled BGs.
In TBC that plan didnât work and I stopped doing BGs on the lock because every time I stepped into a BG, I got swarmed before I could get an insta-cast off. I may have made an enemy or two in Vanilla (snicker).
I just played my hunter and rogue more in TBC. However⌠when TBC launches⌠Iâmma try SL/SL I can see how that would be killer. And I donât see myself raiding on my lock (may give my priest a shot) so my current SM/Ruin build is disposable. Thanks fro the tip.
PS team up with a shadow priestâŚshadow weaving is INSANE. My spouse and I used to kill it in BGs with that combo. Again Vanilla 
a) No it doesnât. That blue post doesnât actually say they found any true offenders. Anywhere.
b) Now that theyâve unbanned people for simply opening the chest more than once or even aggressively farming it as the repeatable grind it looked like and that weâve had before, this means it is not abuse. The only remaining behaviors I can think of that would constitute abuse would be unrelated to the chest itself, such as outright botting for the fragments â in which case youâre not banning for the chest, youâre banning for botting.
c) Even if we were to disregard both of those things and assume that there was some number of people whose bans stuckâŚwe havenât heard about any of them. Weâve heard of several dozen now that got unbanned, and zero who stayed banned. This is a presumed accuracy rate of, at best, zero percent.
They assumed the chest could only reset by an exploit, when it was in fact a bug that made it reset for everyone every time. It didnât despawn at all and the mobs kept dropping fragments forever, for anyone. Now it correctly shuts off after first loot.
They also didnât say they left any.
This is lawyer speak to defuse anger about an extreme knee-jerk reaction. Zero is a subset of ânot alwaysâ.
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None of those logs have to do with 8.3 stuff. People just started hardcore stacking Loyal to the End (AEP azerite trait) and suiciding shamans to get like 1000 secondaries across the raid.
I wonder if this is why the servers went down, they are fixing it?
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No, thatâs a whole separate issue with many players getting DCâd and then unable to log back in getting the âcharacter with that name already existsâ message:
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Are these the boxes in Uldum? I was wondering what the rationale was for them opening. Some of them opened, others said they needed a key. Really didnât notice if they were big or small. I fly around in between looking for quest items looking for boxes to open and rares to kill. Whatâs wrong with that? This is not an exploit and no one should be suspended at all. My two cents.
I would not have assumed this was unintended since the hard capped the number of upgrades per week.
Next topic: âSuspensions going out for repeating daily questsâ.
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I mean to be fair you were trying to convince me that I was in the wrong
Read more carefully. Their initial analysis suggested an exploit. Further investigation revealed this was ânot alwaysâ the case. Thatâs all it says.
In times of better good will and trust Iâd have taken that at the implied face value youâre taking for granted: that there was an exploit in parallel with normal people just farming stuff that erroneously forgot to stop dropping.
But the thing is when exploits like that get banwaved and patchedâŚwe donât just hear about those from Blizzard themselves. Usually people who get banned over that stuff are pretty open about communicating through other channels (reddit, discord, signal boosting through guildies, etc). There hasnât been any. Total crickets. I canât even find anyone whose ban stuck. My overwhelmingly strong suspicion is that ânot alwaysâ is technically true lawyerspeak for âthere wasnât oneâ. PR goons do this all the time to diffuse anger when they screw up by implying they were partially justified but leaving wiggle room in case theyâre called on it â not just in WoW but pretty much all business.
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Hey Nobully. Didnât I some years ago tell you I wanted to speak to you in voice chat and you never showed up? Donât type anything online unless you can back it up verbally.
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Let me know if Blizzard nerfed your way of getting the relics and chests. Right or wrong it wasnât something that was intended this was easy to determine with some common sense.