they prefer to focus on failed features that at the beginning the community told them it wont work, like azerite power
but a feature that have been so much successful and everyone liked them? hell no!
allied races players are just sit here in face of “blizzard, seriously wtf?!”
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/blizzard-are-you-even-listening/877830
True.
The tier set bonuses may change with the arrival of an expansion but they still remain.
The WoD tier sets were disabled when Legion launched…well, I guess all Tier sets were disabled then
But even if they did keep working, they are worthless because of the level difference
Yeah, the bonuses get nerfed and removed… Just like borrowed power systems.
You still retain the tier sets, do you not? Then that is not borrowed. By the definition, borrowing is returning what was given, hence tier sets are not borrowed powers.
I agree that they would be worthless regardless if they did work.
You still retain your azerite gear and your Legion legendaries, do you not?
They all have something in common, they are all broken, thus borrowed power.
That isn’t borrowed power when they are baked baseline into classes or specs.
Yeah, it is. Enhancing our normal abilities for a temporary time. The exact definition of borrowed power.
EHHHHH WRONG.
Tier sets never completed a class/spec like the systems we’ve been getting since Legion which have been a passive talent tree. Artifact weapon , Azerite gear and Soul Binds all passive talent trees. Tier sets just gave added bonuses to completed classes and out side of High end content you didn’t need them .
How ever If you tried to play Legion when it was current with out artifact weapon or BfA with out Azerite gear or any level 60 SL content without soul binds well then good luck .
Yup.
At this point the defense of rental systems and trying to lump gear and tier sets with rental systems and borrowed power shows the desperate attempt to defend current BlizZard machinations.
I haven’t defended Blizzard at all. I feel all of the systems are bad. The systems have been in place longer than you think.
Precisely.
One of WoDs PVP set bonus was five CPs after a vanish. It wasn’t make or break if you did not have it.
But without Azerite or legiondaries you simply can not function to play at any level for that expansion with borrowed power.
I am talking about the borrowed power from Azerite necklace, covenants, and Legion weapons. You get special abilities from those things, actual powers. You also get stamina and so on additions, but gear gets you that as well.
What I am saying is that you do not get specific skills from the tier sets, like you do with covenants, the azerite necklace and the legion wepons. Therefore those are actual borrowed powers that get taken away, they no longer function. The tier sets you get to keep. They do not give you special skills, like those borrowed powers. Do you see where I am getting at?
Exactly.
To reiterate, classes and specs werent designed around tier gear. Classes and specs rn are designed around these Blockbuster™ rental systems.
To establish an equivalence between the two is on a shockingly low level of reasoning…
Cool, I am talking about all borrowed power systems.
Yeah, you don’t like that they have double/tripled down on it, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t already exist.
I believe they will quadruple down on it next expansion. Believe me I hate it too.
Your post always amuse me, “you disagree with me cause your dumb”
Good point about stamina increase that come with these borrowed power systems.
it’s how they recycle talent tree abilities.
every xpack starts with a gutted talent tree. then they release the talents over the course of the xpack, then they kill it at the end of the xpack so that they don’t have to deal with the power creep.
they invent one or two new abils which they’ll keep in a neutered form, but yeah. I’m with you. it’s annoying. it’s just giving us stuff, then taking it away, so they can give it back again and act like they’re giving it anew.
but the purpose behind it is clear enough. instead of rejigging talent trees to accommodate 10 new levels every xpack, you just dole out the same basic stuff that you stripped at the start of the xpack.
But tier sets were not mandatory .
Borrowed systems like covenants and soul binds are for current content.
Go make and alt level it up to 60 . Do not pick a covenant and see how far you get.
Yeah, you are still missing the point. Tier sets were developed for a specific class. They did not give you special abilities, like the borrowed power from azerite necklace, covenants or legion weapons.
Take tier set for rogue class assassin:
54 + stamina
34+ agility
20+ quickness
1 piece: perk 1
2 pieces: perk 2
…
Now blizzard did probably turn the perks off, but you can still use the stamina buff, agility buff, and so on.
Now look at your Azerite necklace:
1.) Any ability that came with it is now locked away and no longer usable.