That’s the crap lore bro, no matter what you say, that’s the ridiculous lore that Blizzard has told and has been telling since Warcraft3.
Did the orcs lose to the kaldorei in Warcraft 3? No, they were winning, and when the kaldorei saw that they couldn’t beat them, they invoked a demigod to deal with them, resorting to a super weapon, and they just didn’t expect that the orcs were also capable of having a super weapon.
What I can’t stand is this ridiculous speech from kaldorei fans about having a win, a win over who?
Why do you need a win? It’s you who are still invested in this ridiculous faction war, and your posing as someone who doesn’t uphold these nefarious values that Blizzard pushes on the fanbase is easily debunked by the simple fact that you like every post that makes that same point.
So please stop self-contradicting yourself and trying to fool us with this self-pity argument, when your real wish is that this game is still based on this stupid theme that for one race to be interesting it needs to humiliate others.
You like it so much that in your head, it doesn’t sound self-contradictory that in order for your race to be restored to that position, it keeps repeating this nefarious cycle that destroyed the game’s lore.
And you hope that if the kaldorei have a chainquest where they go out with a steamroller crushing the Horde everywhere, the Horde fans will sit around saying that they’re finally doing you justice and that we have to applaud that your supreme race is finally being portrayed as she deserves. So please spare me the talk that you don’t like this fascist aesthetic, you do, you crave it, and that’s the only way you recognize kaldorei as an interesting race.
The kaldorei never needed an empire of Azshara to be a race with fascist aesthetics, I understand that you know very little about what fascist aesthetics are, but they are since their introduction a race steeped completely in the aesthetics that define fascism.
This irrational worship of nature that the kaldorei have is fascist because fascism is an ideology founded on irrationality and it is profoundly irrational to worship nature. And the reason for this is simple, nature is a cruel god, and eventually those who worship a cruel god will adopt the elements that define that god. I have already explained the historical reasons that lead fascist movements to develop an enchantment with nature. But in case you still need more elements of real human history I don’t mind providing them for you.
Did you know that one of fascism’s goals was to reforest all of Europe after they won the war? Did you know that they intended to return civilization to a stage of submission to the forces of nature, and that to do so they would simply create means to stop the wheel of economic development after achieving their complete victory?
In any discourse of Platonic love for nature, good old Darwinism develops and is taken to its last consequences. And the consequences of this are almost always that perfection must be a value pursued and preserved at all costs, and in fascist logic perfection is and has always been the mimicry of nature.
That’s exactly what happens in Warcraft3. The orcs were a poor race, the poorest of Azeroth along with trolls and tauren, they live in an unprecedented level of misery, they enter a place rich in natural resources, they develop some settlements there, because they did not know about the occupation of the place , and are merely trying to get resources so that their race can survive.
Did the kaldorei have any semblance of empathy for the social status of the orcs when they first saw them? No, they simply started a slaughter of the orcs, because what the orcs were doing there was destroying their utopia in which nature can only exist in a stage of perfection, and even the orcs were immediately recognized as a sentient race, for the kaldorei it didn’t matter because pieces of wood were seen by the kaldorei as something more important than a race that was starving and needed some resources to survive. Therefore, they actually considered trees and animals superior to orcs. Tell me does that sound like what? Otherwise fascism?
Now you might say that orcs would destroy the entire forest to get resources, but that’s a lie. The orcs have lived for centuries as a collecting race on Draenor, they have always had a relationship similar to that of indigenous people with nature, in which the whole basis of their speech was to live in communion with the environment, renewing cycles, and using nature’s resources to ensure the survival of their race.
Furthermore, the orcs never worshiped nature as a god, as the kaldorei did. And that’s because the orcs understood nature as something it always was, as something dangerous that would kill them at the first opportunity, as is well described in their relationship with the primals in WOD, so they feared nature, they had no illusions about it.
The orcs loved elements , hence shamanism, they loved their ancestors, hence communing with spirits, and they loved the stars, hence the shadowmoon clan’s communion with void forces.
The kaldorei, on the other hand, only love one god, and they think that because of that, all the places that have aspects that this god manifests belong to them. Hence they occupy all the places which are rich in natural resources. And in doing so, the indirect consequence is that they condemn all other races of Kalimdor to live in a perpetual stage of endemic poverty, with no possibility of economic development, because for the kaldorei what matters is and has always been the preservation of their God. That’s why they are present in all these places that could offer some possibility of development for these races. Because they think their utopia must be preserved at all costs.
And for them it doesn’t matter to massacre races that stand in the way of this goal, because they already have a supremacist discourse ready to justify their actions. They already have all the elements that morally justify their actions. Even when the natural consequence of their actions has always been to destroy cultures and other races. Because they don’t care. They didn’t care about the tauren a race that even helped save them in the ancients war, it was the orcs who cared about them. Because that is the theme of the kaldorei, and it is fascist, and fascism does not need empires to be fascism.
I’m sorry that I’m bursting your bubble, but fascism is fervent love for nature, and that’s why romanticism is the starting point of fascism as an ideology, because romanticism is exactly a way of expressing this fervent love for nature that creates the elements that later justify the actions of fascism.
And your race of nature worshipers is just that. They are the dream of any fascist discourse.