You guys know that scene in Return of the Jedi where the two Ewoks get blasted and the one gets up and tries to get his pal to keep moving? But his pal is dead so he just makes this heart wrenching mourning sound.
Thats me. I am that disheartened Ewok. Blizz has shot my pal, the Kaldorei story, dead where they stood.
Is there a reason for this why Blizz has been not doing Night Elves any justice since arguably Catacylsm?
Is there a writer that hates Night Elves?
Sing it, brother. Iâm hoping they donât go down that path, but the Bellular video has me paranoid. The sudden buildup of Shandris, notably taking place with other Alliance members and not Night Elves, has made me even more worried about the direction theyâre going to go with the Night Warrior.
I canât forget the fact that they turned the AU draenei, themselves victims of a genocide, into the villains while turning the perpetrators into victims/heroes. That is not a good precedent.
I hate to say that this is a possibility, but it is.
You seem to forget Feathermoon Stronghold. And again during the long Vigil and more recently, she did not frontline the military that was taken up by other Night Elves, including Fandral Staghelm, Malfurion Stormrage, Maiev, Shandris herself at Feathermoon, and Jarod Shadowsong at other occasions. She only took a front line role recently when she took the Night Warrior empowerment.
To be fair, if I were Tyrande, Iâd have the Azerothian equivalent of a restraining order against him. Heâs creepily obsessed.
What kind of direction?
âŚDonât tell me, Evil Tyrande?
The Horde characters sheâd have to work with are Lorâthemar and Thalyssra, two people who are pretty low on the âHorde characters Tyrande wants to murderâ totem pole. None of them were directly involved in WoT or Darkshore warfront.
But Tyrande would definitely not act friendly towards either Horde elven leader, still viewing their people as sub-elven trash (she calls them âderivative elvesâ at some point this expac I believe). Lots of sass from Tyrande, but I think she could keep her cool for the greater good of stopping Azshara. Now, if the Horde leaders were Nathanos or Saurfang (or god forbid Sylvanas), yeah, there couldnât be a believable way to make that happen. That might be part of the reason theyâre keeping Nathanos out of this mission, when heâs been everywhere else in BfA. It would be a hard thing to sell: that the likes of Genn, Jaina, and Shandris would work with him for more than ten minutes before theyâd try to kill him.
So, if they did want Tyrande there, I think it could have worked in a believable way, more so than other plot points in BfA. But they left her out forâŚreasons.
I didnât forget the stronghold where she was stationed by her military superior. Or when she lost the original stronghold to the Naga, and her military superior had to come personally save her.
Over Tyrande being turned into a villain or killing Saurfang and causing the war to continue so everyone can blame the Night Elves for it and Blizzard can prop up Anduin as the voice of reason that should have been listened to all along, yes, Iâd rather have Tyrande working with Horde characters (again. Like in Valâsharah).
Hereâs my best case scenario: Tyrande has Saurfang at bow point again, Saurfang is not moving and accepting being judged by the embodiment of Elune again, while Sylvanas is smirking in the distance behind him pleased that her enemies are pitted against each other. Only for Tyrande to shoot her arrow and it goes over Saurfangâs shoulder and kills Sylvanasâ remaining Valâkyr (lets say after Saurfang has already killed the other one). Sylvanas screams and retreats, and Tyrande says something to Saurfang like âYou will live, and atone for what you have done until your dying breath. Elune make it so you will not find that reprieve for years to come.â
Tie this in with the Horde rebels helping the Night Elves get Ashenvale back in atonement, then, yes, I would want to see Tyrande working with the Horde.
For the topic of Shandris in Nazjatar, from what Iâve seen of it from the PTR, itâs just fluff that doesnât really add anything to her development or really change any interpretation of Shandrisâ character, so itâs a considerable waste.
I would much prefer Tyrande, but at least the development Shandris is getting in Nazjatar is good - I like the stuff with her brother. Iâll try to make the most of what theyâre giving us, since itâs basically impossible to change at this point.
The thing that worries me the most is how zero lore characters got the black eyes except Tyrande even though some were there.
On topic, It wouldnât have be difficult to add Tyrande all counter arguments are easily solved :
I also wanted to respond to this, but Galenorn already covered what I was thinking, so I just wanted to connect the two conversations together here:
Because only Tyrande and her Champion were key participants in the ritual. You actually even handle the artifact yourself, after all.
How do we explain all the others then ?
All the troops have NW eyes but no named characters have them (Shandris, Maiev probably, Mordent, Jarod, Malfurion)
Yeah. I feel I should reiterate this, because without the context of my entire posting history, it might come across as me being opposed to Shandris being there. I love Shandris. I love theyâre filling in the gaps of her backstory. Even if it is just fluff to give her a personal dog in the fight against Azshara, beyond the generic âour Queen was badâ reason every Night Elf has.
Thereâs just a giant, Tyrande-shaped hole in plot. And no good reason for the High Priestess to not fill it.
Because those presumably are followers operating at a drone level of Tyrande-worship that the major NPCs are not.
Nice headcanon, but I will wait for an explanation
P.S : Sure her daughter and her husband are not faithfull enough in Elune and donât trust Tyrande either.
Unfortunately I think something along those lines is possible. Thousands of her people killed, she become Eluneâs vengeance, and then Saurfang is released. They could take this totally in the direction that Tyrande wants nothing but war war war. Itâs not like they havenât screwed the Night Elves before.
She could have worked with them, it could have worked, at least with those 2 characters.
Feathermoon Stronghold was not created until after the Horde came. Itâs purpose was to keep them from taking over Feralas. During Long Vigil and the Styr War before that Tyrande was leading the Sentinels.
That is also not true. In recent times she has focused more on the sisterhood and let Shandris lead the forces but even Garrosh stormed into Ashenvale it was Tyrande that personally lead her forces from Darnassus through the Zoarm Strand and straight to the front lines.
Also who do you think saved Malfurion from the Nightmare and battles itâs forces both in the walking world and The Emerald Dream? Who cleansed Erakanus in Moonglade when he went crazy?
I agree. Sheâs and intresting character thatâs been on the back burner for too long. Now that sheâs getting some development maybe theyâll give her a new model. She doesnât even look like the General of the Sentinel Army.
I appreciate at the very least that they updated her armor from Vanilla.