So I can just kill Alliance NPCs without getting flagged? Sweet! Gonna grief so many people leveling alts.
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Unflagged for pvp would mean theyâre friendly no matter what
Well be more specific next time lol.
I LOVE how you go on about how the Alliance and Horde donât matter anymore and then show your faction biases two posts later. You want the factions to fight again too, you just wonât admit it.
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Nobody wants this anymore, it restricts the gameplay too much. If someone wants to play an Alliance Tauren, then they should be allowed to do so. Or a corrupt human at Horde.
Faction identity in this topic is just âwarâ and does not represents the core elements of for what those colors once stood.
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No you donât want this anymore. There are others that do.
We have said repeatedly that itâs not about war with the Alliance. Itâs about having our own quests. You are free to use your RP addons and pretend to be what you like.
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The majority does not want this anymore. And Ion Hazzikostas as acknowledged this as well in an interview. The war is over. You need to move on.
This is something I agree with, but youâre discussing the Blizzard writing team, who is not competent enough to fulfill a satisfying storyline for both sides regularly.
I can see midnight being dark and horde all over. At least earthen are dual faction.
You never give numbers on this. A poll given by Mike Ybarra said very differently too.
Again, for the thousandth time, itâs not about war with the Alliance.
Oh and so they are only able to write it for Alliance and the community veils it as âneutral?â BS!
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Thrall, known for being a Shaman.
Shaman, known for communing with the elements.
Elements like the wind, water, air, storm, fire, et cetera.
Storm, like the stormrooks Lufsela is trying to commune with in the first place.
Shouldnât be surprised when a Horde player misses out on the blatantly obvious like this, and yet I am. Maybe Iâm just spoiled interacting with the esteemed aesthetes of the great and glorious Alliance.
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Ask Ion Hazzikostas personally, if you want to have numbers. All I can do is referring to actual sources and interviews.
I do not care for your emotional victimization and manhunting. I do agree with your concerns but thatâs it. Either you can discuss or let it be.
No you donât want this anymore and the constant attempts you people keep making to gaslight others into thinking you hold the majority opinion are getting on my nerves
Iâm shocked by how you can have such a fundamental misunderstanding of what the Alliance and Horde are. These are groups of nations bound by politics, not philosophies that you can convert to. Thereâs no conceivable reason why a tauren would want to join the Alliance or a human join the Horde nor is there any reason why the Alliance or Horde would accept such citizens. Maybe spies and saboteurs driven by greed, but not actual soldiers or citizens.
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You know who are also well know for being shamans and communning with the elements AND dealing with gryphons who are called the stormriders?
Hint: they also have a connection with the rock dwarves
you have guessed orcs and Thrall, well, too bad, its the wildhammer clan, of shamanistic dwarves, they should be the one there, Thrall is a token with two lines in the cinematic.
This race doesnât make a lick of sense to join the horde, and it have nothing to do with horde aesthetic and thematic, thats why it feels unfitting and out of place
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Ion spoke recently about people still preferring the faction lines and some not. Maria Hamilton spoke on still keeping factions in place. Not having faction war does NOT mean getting rid of factions. People not wanting faction war also does NOT mean not wanting factions.
Donât be so dramatic.
Iâm not victimized. Iâd just prefer doing story with Horde NPCs. Having a Horde questing path. Iâm not even sure what the manhunting thing is about.
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I was joking before, but do I really need to explain to you that both Kurdran and Thrall were there because each specializes in a specific field necessary to the endeavor concerning the stormrooks?
Thrall: Communes with elements
Kurdran: Flies gryphons
Madness, I know.
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Eh, I agree with the rest of what youâve been saying and I used to hold this opinion too. But after getting an idea of who the Earthen of Khaz Algar are I donât actually mind them being in the Horde. Personally I wish theyâd stop adding races altogether when the ones we already have are being so neglected. But I welcome our new Earthen friends.
That being said, it just makes me that much more hungry for a faction conflict. One of the biggest missed opportunities of Mists of Pandaria was being able to watch people who were once neighbors or possibly even friends slowly learn to despise each other as their allegiance to their chosen faction began to eclipse the bonds made in their old lives. They have a real chance to do this right with the Earthen and Dracthyr.
This is a public forum and not social media. If you donât want to discuss things, then donât post here. This is not social media². And unlike you, I actually linked an official link to the topic. This is more than you have done so far.
Your idea of âgetting on my nervesâ only shows that you are delusional. You are just triggered by a random person on the internet. What for? Because someone just wrote some text? If you are already triggered now, how will you ever be capable of handling situations which are truly upsetting?
Perhaps you should start reading the books, before opening your mouth and gaslight someone. Ironic, isnât it. The core concept are the values of the factions and not a set in stone commitment.
Besides, if we broaden the discussion to loosening the restrictions regarding the playable class, then why is it so unimaginable that a human can be at Horde? People should be free to play how they want to and your argument has no valid point speaking against it besides âpoliticsâ.
Yes, I agree with you here. But thatâs nothing new. The problem is and has been always the writing. They could easily added two to three main Horde heroes but they just didnât do it.
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I know it makes me unpopular for a certain crowd but I do hope they stick to the pan-elven cooperation thing Metzen announced - keep the blood elves front and center (with nightborne obviously) but also do the unity thing in a way that gives everyone a good presence.
Frozen throne being the expansion that convinced me to try wow has a lot to do with it - the early interactions between Tyrande and Kaelâthas is a thing I loved. Itâs so different from wow, it almost feels like an awkward family reunion.
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Most of these low lv alts are alliance players who still canât get over blood elves goiing horde, they rather the factions to end and that bs to âany race pick your factionâ like its some moba team game, so they can have their way by picking alliance blood elves
You should not even bother with this kind of nonsense from people who have zero lore knowledge to suggest the factions should be dumb down to pick the side you like more, ignoring years of lore, worldbuilding and the small factions within the factions.
do i really need to explain to you again that any other dwarf shaman could have done that? Thrall is literally a token character who is not needed nor necessary, because rock dwarves stick with dwarves, not orcs
Its not a matter of who they are as a people, it about what they are, they are rock dwarves, dwarves are alliance, end of history
The moment they start to make the lines of what divine the faction thin, is is the moment clueless people like the one you were responding come to, to say they should get rid of factions all together.
Neutral races are one kind of bad, but keep adding races who belong to another faction into both is a terrible bad idea making the races bloated, the faction line, thematic and fantasy muddled
Thats the reason why neutral races and the race of one faction transplanted to another is a problem, this is a kind of issue that will never be discussed or deal with it, have 12 years of mists of pandaria and the pandarens itself might be non existent to this game appearing as random npcs for token here and there
ITs something that doesnât work, and its a problem that is just getting bigger
the books that say the faction âpeaceâ treaty is thin and can break any moment by Exploring Azeroth? when conflicts between orcs and elves still happen after BFA like in ashenvale?
Because humans hate the horde for what its done to him and his race and people/faction, because the horde races hate humans because what they did to their race people/faction
That is the basic of this setting of the worldbuilding of the setting, if you donât like it, there is plenty of other games who donât have similar well constructed world and you can do whatever you like without being bound by the rules of it
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Who ever said that I like elves? Iâm pretty sure there are several statements from me recorded which say that I do not like them but that the Alliance-players have absolutely a right in having High Elves.
And in return: What does the posting has to do with the topic at hand? All what you did was an irrelevant backhanded cross-reference with no substance to it.
Yeah i just do not believe that, if walks and quacks like a duck, is a duck to me 
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