I reported a group of bots and got a notice the next day that action was taken.
That is a automated response designed to appeal the masses. Ill report bots all the time, get that notice, and still see the bots in action. Sadly I would take that with a grain of salt.
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From the blue post they actioned against 270,970 accounts in December.
That is an average of 1 ban every 10 seconds for the entire month, around the clock.
You think temp forum silences are going out at a faster rate than that lol.
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Sure they are.
But it happens in waves and while botting gets more advanced, it is more difficult to thwart it. Not to mention when they get stolen accounts etcâŚ
It isnât so easy OP.
The devs gave up on fighting bots years ago
You can tell they gave up because Comp Stomp and follower AI dungeons are actually a thing now 
Itâs also evident just standing around any major city and observing trade chat⌠itâs easily 80-85% âwaterfallâ-text spam from lowlevel RMT bots/copy-pasted links to RMT websites
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Those videos I linked above happend right after that âban waveâ. So yeah in the grand scheme of things, it did very little. Next to nothing. They need to ramp it up, put forth more effort and resources, and go on the offensive for once.
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ok i know this is GD but weâre all on the same page with how the linear flow of time works, right?
Maybe I first misunderstood you.
I do, however, believe the whole âdoing stuffâ is a facade.
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It is amusing that this topic is still being carried by people, despite being given the actual explanation behind ban waves, continue to cry ânu uh! capitalism conspiracy evil corp!â
Probably because there are still people who arenât easily gaslighted.
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Thatâs why they need to hardware ban them it will cut into overall profits.
Especially when many large bot groups use many different bots on multiple rigs hardware banning all of them will basically brick those machines for them.
When a bot is reported they should hardware ban that bot account and any accounts associated with the IP.
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perhaps if you were concise to begin with, we wouldnât have to play the game of â20 questionsâ. 
so letâs have another go.
exactly what is it that is meant to be happening in the video?
dude engages in harassment.
dude gets muted.
dude creates conspiracy.
this is my forum main.
my toons arenât exactly a secret
so⌠would you have preferred that they do nothing, and not action those 270,970 accounts?
do you understand that thereâs more than one botting program at any given time?
would you prefer that they wait until they can break them all at the same time?
it sounds like youâre asking for longer periods between waves.
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The lack of effort is deliberate. They made the choice that theyâd rather âfix it in postâ with PR campaigns rather than âdo it rightâ with budgeting in a proper anti-cheat team, or licensing tech.
Corporate only sends out a developer to do a last minute data ban to stop the cascade of cry posts on Reddit for PR reasons.
Theyâve proven that they do not want to properly fund an anti-cheat, and the vectors almost all bots the past decade use to glide past warden have been unchanging and known.
They update data bans monthly along the lines of x did y z times as the peak of their âeffortâ and is why banwaves are banwaves instead of continuous banning. Their client side anti-cheat effectively doesnât exist anymore and allows pre-teens to script kiddie free bots together without bans.
My favorite is how a good chunk of the woweconomy discordâs âsanctions in SoDâ thread are lying botters who are known subscribers to bots. People have already privately dmâd each other the various evidence from bot discords to prove such. As such, many botters are ruining the appeals process, and are why devs are ignoring false positive posts.
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I believe this as well. Most of their âbansâ are just PR moves to attempt to appeal the masses. They are not actually doing anything substantial. The proof is in the pudding, or all these bots would not still be operating, people wouldnt be making videos with hundreds and hundreds of bots going to work, and so on.
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Iâve seen bots in WoW that have been there since day 0 of me starting to play, and I can tell theyâre the script kiddie type thatâd take no effort for a real anti-cheat to ban.
Itâs the same reason I quit Overwatch. Too many botters that donât get banned and Iâd rather not deal with take-a-turn between throwers and cheaters. Especially with or against âpaid boosterâ groups that bus people for money by using cheats themselves while pretending to be a top500. Got old going thru numerous replays and tracking bnets to see no bans were happening.
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Honestly,I seen very few bots ,just a hand full .It makes me laugh when they thought this would stop botting as they zoom past on their dragon mounts doing mining and herbing completely missing the nodes right there in front of them.
Oh boy. Iâm safe because I have more achievement points because I totally get stuck all the time.
Even the big bot farms are using script kiddie stuff.
Things like https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PnfZAhfJBx8 are being tacitly allowed by not having a proper client-side anti-cheat.
If there is an actual WoW dev reading this, here is the TODO list:
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Block RDP from interacting with WoW. This is a big one, as almost every paid bot dev tells its subscribers to use RDP to avoid bans. They localhost RDP from one user account to another on the same machine. This can be detected with a simple win32 call.
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Block VM use. Itâs very easy to detect VMs. Itâs another tool bot devs tell all their users to setup to avoid bans. Modded VMs that try to hide themselves can even can be detected with pre-made kits straight outta blackhat conferences.
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Start using FFT analysis on the server and client side to detect automated inputs, even ones that have RNG applied. Every bot under the sun tries to add RNG to avoid auto-detection, but a proper FFT analysis can still reveal such. atlaslogics.github. io/antibot/On-Anti-Bot-Biometric-Protections.md/
Until steps 1 and 2 are done, expect script kiddies to walk through the front door with free scripts written a decade ago. Step 3 is for the more advanced bots that manage to hide themselves despite that.
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What is this exactly?
Agreed.
Really dont know about this either honestly. Sounds like something blizzard is to cheap to implement however.
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Windowsâ built-in Remote Desktop. Most bots out there nowadays bot the RDP window rather than WoW directly.
Pretty much, theyâve had 20 years to do so but have not due to short sighted and cruel cost-benefit analysis at the corporate level.
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