Nah not your post, the other one with them quoting Ear post over a week ago, that convo chain you weren’t a part of.
So my question is for those who are against removing Pathfinder requirements…
How does this affect you? You’re all so adamant that there’s going to be some cataclysmic fallout if blizzard one day just allows steady flying without requiring you to complete arbitrary tasks like the campaign or exploration.
Would it really have been that much trouble to allow steady flight at the start of TWW? Having an OPTIONAL MODE to make it easier to get from A to B really is just so terrible that you don’t think those that are legitimately impaired should have that option, that doesn’t affect you or your daily play in the slightest?
Please tell me the negative here, so I can at least try to understand your viewpoint rather just seeing the same things I’ve seen before where you’re just saying that people are trying to get an advantage (how getting steady flight without Pathfinder is an advantage?).
One the launch of TWW is already over with. Pathfinder that is set at the start of TWW is not that problematic and I highly doubt many or any at all are really hung up or stuck on unlocking steady flight by completing the current PF.
No one has a crystal ball as to whats to come in the the next xpac and if one or the other or even both forms of fight will be locked or both unlocked from the start. The fact you have so many when you just simply look at their achievements you can tell they hold no issue at doing PF and unlocking it already because they have. Even those who have openly said they had no issue and are severely handicapped. Many have spoke up and said don’t use me as a ploy in a war to remove PF and a general statement that because I am in someway disabled that PF or Skyriding has made the game impossible to play.
But the same ol people and poster any time any type of topic is made that says anything about flying, poof there its is, ohhhh the poor disabled that play WoW they just cant accomplish PF nor can they play the game in its current state. Even if the topic has nothing to do with disabled people playing WoW or even trying to deal with PF or even skyriding in the 1st place.
This is when the rest of us call em out on it and will continue to because they are forum frauds whom are using the disabled as pure crutch to run around with their torches and pitchforks and make a bigger deal out of something than what it really is. All for their own agenda and fan fair and self belief they are more important than everyone else.
Let’s be clear, there are different levels of impairment. Just because one impaired player completed it doesn’t mean they are the embodiment of all impaired players.
Just your personal opinion, just as my opinion is that there are legitimately players that have trouble with skyriding.
That’s what you took from OP? “I am having trouble with skyriding, please allow me access to a more simple flying mode”? Which AGAIN, offers no gameplay advantages. If it’s just the fact you feel they are not being truthful, then that again is your opinion.
I guess being on the opposite side of the fence on this issue as you makes it difficult for me to understand this hill you guys are choosing to plant your feet on.
It’s steady flight. It’s not an advantage.
I wonder the same thing.
Am I able to get by until I am able to complete PF? Yes. I just wonder why I have to get by, when others do not?
Matter of perception.
Because theoretically if you did get by, then you were able to do so, even if it could have been a bit difficult (or not, not trying to assume). However, having a player, or players, who have said they physically cannot is a large barrier to entry. People would exclude them based on their feeling that they are “faking it”? Or “I could do it, why can’t you?”
That mentality is not a good look.
As far as I’m concerned, the TWW version pathfinder is just a strictly better version of the Wrath system.
Gold cost and needing to visit a trainer has been replaced with a questline that you have to do anyways.
How would you feel about both being available? One way satisfies those who choose to use the gold by having an upfront cost. The other allows those to earn it the regular way if they choose the Pathfinder route. Sure it could be considered pay for convenience, but it would be similar to the level boost service, but with gold.
I wouldn’t really see the point, since the trainer/gold cost didn’t unlock until a level where you would have already finished the questline anyways, as the trainer would not sell you the training until max, nor would the boa book be available.
I think they should more aggressively be killing ways to boost players the last 10 levels to max. Hitting max level should require you to actually play your character.
I think in their haste they failed to read the thread in its entirety for a discussion is taking place. We are positive WoW gamers and we can and should do better to help all.
No, you’re just randomly responding to posts from a week ago to bump the thread and make it seem more active than it is.
Similarly, I don’t see a reason for locking out steady flight behind 10 levels and the campaign. Skyriding is arguably better than steady flight in almost every way, and steady flight gives no advantage other than swimming in the air. There was a discussion a bit ago about if skyriding or steady flight is faster in Dawnbreaker. That discussion lead me to believe people thought skyriding was superior.
So… What is the need for pathfinder to unlock a mode of flight that is supposedly “inferior, but preferred” by a whole sect of players? I personally don’t see one.
Regardless of what anyone’s reason is, impaired or not, I’m still greatly confused as to why some players are adamant that steady flight be locked behind Pathfinder when skyriding exists by default. Not only that, but locked behind getting to level 20.
I guess I’d be fine with reverting both skyriding and slow flying to the unlock requirements/systems for the expansions they were respectively introduced in.
I’ll say it again …if player base that wants to use Steady Flight cause its easier for them since the are Disabled then there so be no damn Pathfinder restrictions…if Steady Flight is restricted then Dragon Flying needs to be put behind a Pathfinder too…What is good for the Goose is good for the Gander…
“I demand everyone else to be miserable instead of pushing to have it removed completely” does not sway anyone to your cause, the opposite actually. This would just build animosity towards yourself and those you claim to speak for.
Raging and lashing out against forum peeps since PF still exists doesn’t do anything positive, we have no control over it other than requesting changes, the same as you.
Do you want PF removed or do you want to make people miserable?
No, they rather run their mouths on the forums seeking attention and playing the pity me card.
They do, it doesn’t for me. You should of read my bug reports in Shadowlands about Venthyr spells.
this topic was dead until you decided to post again. you know what hot topic that gaining attention? this
I really hope this helps you. gl