We do, and I appreciate you so so much for what you have said in this very long post. FWIW, you have never made me feel like a tool or that I was being used. You are a good ally, which is what I have always tried to be for others. 
Thank you.
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You are very welcome.
This thread is about disabled players so if they focus their ire against me that is all good because it means it gives a safe space for disabled players to openly communicate why removing pf is important to them to have easy access to TBC normal flying.
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Again, assuming your disability is incompatible with dragonflight, you surely can endure 10 levels on the ground.
P.S. Referring to player flight as a “minigame” suggested an anti-flight bias, hence my remark.
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As a disabled gamer with epilepsy, spells being too flashy could cause me to have a seizure, Blizzard should remove all flashy spell effects from the game for me.
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No, this thread is about the OP making the false claim they are incapable of completing the War Within leveling campaign without steady flight, when the campaign can be completed grounded. Then, the usual suspects showed up, you included, to pretend this is ableism when Blizzard doesn’t cave to what you want.
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Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle…
You were all up in that deserter thread a while back like your life depended on it, now here you are making baseless claims about OP. It’s not up to you to decide if someone is disabled or not, but you claiming that it’s just a ploy to gain an advantage is just outright a thoughtless way to go about this topic. There are in fact disabled gamers out there and seeing you and others say what you’ve said in this thread is downright atrocious. Sure there are those out there who exploit ableism for their own gain, but not everyone deserves to be called a liar for it.
If you want the game to be so hard and not accommodate anyone, just go play classic era hard mode and leave retail and it’s progressive QOL changes to those of us that actually appreciate them.
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Wow, a bunch of baseless whining. Yes, it is in-fact atrocious when anyone tries to use disabled folks as a tool to get their own way. No, being incapable of using skyriding doesn’t prevent people from completing the campaign which can be done 100% grounded. Grow up.
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No one said it can’t, it’s a petition regarding Pathfinder requirements and impaired players’ troubles with sky riding. But keep on gatekeeping.
And a ‘grow up’ response? lol bro you can’t even entertain anyone’s suggestions about making the game 0.1% easier without flooding threads with your bad takes.
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It might be green apples to red apples, but it’s still all apples.
Incorrect. This claim was made as far back as the original post.
They should have a setting that helps with that.
Yup they also tossed nasty things toward battle ground players in the BG forums too.
But like I said before we need to rise above that and unite as a player community which is why pahtfinder must go.
Pathfinder impacting the disabled most is not right for WoW and this is why we are speaking out. Thank you for your time.
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There are settings that allow you to turn down effects
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Again, it’s not really pathfinder, it’s when you can use normal player flight versus dragon flight
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I do find it interesting that some people attribute the discussion around disability and nausea and DR as if I am the center of it. Ironically I have not been the center of the discussion because it started in the dragon flight beta where two separate threads started by different players voicing feedback about how Dragon riding was making it hard on themselves and asking for TBC normal flying.
For me that was an interesting moment for I have been an advocate against patchfinder and the anti flying crusade for years. But that was never part of my thought process but I was willing to open my mind and read what others were saying. As a result of reading what others had said I became to understand a new perspective and a new way of looking at WoW travel and ports. How would it impact disabled players or players with nausea? As a result it just reinforced in my mind that the one way is the only right way to play aka pathfinder had done more lasting damage than we originally thought.
it drove away players to final fantasy where flying is unlocked by a zone by zone basis. But it also caused a lot of players to avoid end game and focus on older expansions . Which is 100% fine but then disabled players that were eager to play the current expansion felt singled out and it made them feel 2nd rate.
As a result it just shows that the original devs had the right idea of a ding to cap and gold unlock. Anybody can make gold doing nearly anything in WoW which is why it is more flexible.
Patchfinder rigid structure was designed to discourage and punish players but it backfired because it only caused more people to become pro flying in current content.
Which is why DR and TBC normal flying exist side by side today!
But to really turn that corner pathfinder must go as a it is a vestige of the past and only punishes disabled players at this point. It is obvious to all of us in the WoW community.
Thank you for your time.
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You could not be more wrong.
The truth can not be hidden which is why we are positive WoW gamers. Good post by the way.
Ah, back to “responding to posts from a week or more ago” to make the thread more active and bumped than it is.
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How else is the concern trolling going to continue? Lio’s been suspiciously quiet for the past 2 weeks.
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This is why we are continuing the dialogue with a thread dedicated all right here. This is why I feel the discussion has been very productive so far.
Actually, I think that happened because someone grossly misinterpreted something I said, and replied to it.
At least, I think that is what happened. A post a week old and over with, and they had to make a reply to me which made no sense to me whatsoever.
Ah! c’est la vie!