Should PUGS fight Premades?

Let me go ahead and sum this up one more time for everyone.

If Blizzard splits the qs without first addressing the PvP communities faction imbalance we’ll be left with AB/WSG solo qs in the same shape that AV is currently in.

You think you want it but you don’t.

AV always had 2+ hour queues in vanilla.

So…you are incorrect, sir.

Nah I’m not, you just refuse to shed your ignorance in a futile attempt to remain justified when really you’re just an entitled child.

That’s why you’re only posting short replies. If you posted anymore you and I both know I’d shut you down immediately.

Poor you, still being wrong. : pats you on the head :

You cant get under my skin child. Keep trying though, you’re only proving my point.

And yet, you’re still wrong with all your “skin child” wrongness.

Aaaannnnd ignored. Maybe try posting something that contributes to the conversation instead of spewing ignorant filth.

: attaches yet another “I win” button to his jacket :

Could you point out the post you’re talking about?

xhttps://classic.wowhead.com/bluetracker

Just remove the x before the https

If you could find it either, that would work too.

Not calling either of you a liar, but you should be able to tell me the name of the post with that site so I can read it myself.

So you make friends with the good players along the way, and slowly build a more effective and powerful group? Look a little further than the nose on these issues, yaknow?

Read the above dude’s quote. Just being in a group doesn’t make them equal to a group that preformed and planned based on the idea of maximum efficiency. It slowly leads the way to that idea, of eventually vetting the good players met along the way.

It’s not meant to be 1-2-3 easy. It’s the idea that you might not always be going in as a 10-15 group. You may start off with 5-7 people after looking/queueing for a half hour. If those players were good, add them, and tell them you’d like to play more. And next time, look for a few more new people. It’s about making these connections, nurturing them, and building them into what the current ‘sweats’ do. The distinction is whether you play for fun, or HPH. If it’s HPH, it’s always gonna suck, because you’re making it a job, not a game.

Not to be one of ‘them’… but that is literally what Retail is.

Yeah, I’ve been looking for it as well. I’m not sure that the context is the same as some are suggesting, but I sort of, kind of, remember reading something…

I was just scrolling through https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/g/blizzard-tracker/activity/posts trying to find it.

I came across these, which may be relevant and/or the posts some are thinking of?

Prove it. Find the post and link it.

Until then your words are empty.

Those can’t be it, can they?

They don’t prove what the person was saying at all.

I don’t know. I do not have much information to go by, and I only scrolled through all the blue posts between now, back to Jan 20th… there could have been something previous to that.

Not being able to find something that someone claims exists doesn’t exactly prove that it doesn’t exist, but then… :woman_shrugging:

I cannot find any blue post that supports this claim.

It was a couple months ago. The point was already made then when someone did the busy work to find it.

I’m too lazy and don’t care enough.

Maybe he means the blue posts about premades in AV?

I could see someone mistakenly taking that out of context

It’s there.

That is what I suspect is the case.

Nope. It was strictly “It was never the intent to allow pre-mades to be allowed to constantly steamroll pugs.” had nothing to do with AV.

Well, we have given you the tools to find the post you’re talking about quickly.

If you want us to believe you, find it for us. It’s not fair to expect us to do the digging for you.

Frankly, if it really was from months ago and said what you says it does, I think they would have made those changes by now.