Should just revert all the changes to AV

Are you sad you might lose AVs again? awww

We’re talking about racials now? This is like the third “real problem” brought up now =P. Lets fix the afk/bots first and see where the cards land after that.

nope that can be fixed after the bigger problems.

You’re just denying the facts. These are all very valid problems and whether you like it or not premades were the balance.

The real balance would come if blizz rehired about 800 gms but good luck with that one.

If horde doesnt start sympathizing with the alliance POV far more heavily than you are pvp is going to deteriorate even farther over time.

Premades would have happened no matter what simply because they here better honor/hour. Even if you had all the advantages, you would still premade because it gave you more.

The Alliance believe they’re at a disadvantage. I can agree with that. Players who think they’re at a disadvantage…real or not…will play like they’re at a disadvantage and lose more (even if things are literally identical, I wrote up a big post about the power of player perception not too long ago.)

I do sympathize with with the current Alliance situation, but the solution to one bad situation is not to revert back to another bad situation. Alliance premades came with the side-effects of games launching with 5 people and Right-Click Report abuse…and unfortunately, that last one ruined it for everyone.

If we had all the advantages we wouldn’t be able to premade and would have 1hr queues.

Aaand now you’re no longer talking in good faith.

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No, I’m drawing logical conclusions based on years of extremely pertinent experience and a wealth of PvP combat knowledge.

I’m not going to flaunt all my accolades because its received poorly by this community but I will say that I know what I’m talking about and the posts I’m making are not opinions.

Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. … Unconscious discomfort can lead people to attribute difficult feelings or impulses to someone else to avoid confronting them.

lol you needed to re edit that hordie?

Well unlike yourself, who strives to be bad at even the most menial tasks like trolling, I strive for perfection… This is also likely tied to why you can’t win AV.

Get farm in premades kid.

Unless you cite data, everything said between us has been opinions.

I can’t you guys can’t do that anymore, rofl.

You’ll agree with me eventually. Hopefully classic PvP isn’t completely destitute by then.

But let’s be honest. It already is. If I take a very skilled group of pvpers into warsong it’s just as cancerous as all we run into is either pugs that we stomp or a bunch of helmets that buy gold and pop faps and lips every engage.

I’m a HUGE lover of classic pvp. I had plans to stream and make youtube videos and tutorials. What am I actually doing? You guessed it, raid logging like the rest of ally.

I am not saying AV is in a healthy state right now. We just disagree on the cause and solutions.

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ie we rushed derk with no pvp

was a great change its groups of 5 or pugs thats what they want

yet ur team is mostly afk your response is debatable

step 1 dont be afk
step 2 dont fish
step 3 dismount and fight rather then running and dying on your mount

Right but you cant get past the fact that true balance requires your pvp experience to be pretty rough because you rolled the faction with the most blatant advantages and SHOULD be incentivized to reroll if you truly want a fun pvp experience for everyone.

The strength of racials is debatable. Horde racials are pretty good 1v1, in my opinion. But 40v40, I think racials are pretty meaningless. My ability to break a fear doesn’t matter when I am just going to get insta-gibbed a moment later…or a gnome’s ability to break a snare doesn’t matter if they’re getting isnta-gibbed either.

Almost never, and most of the time when we did it didn’t work. For the most part it just allowed us to not be bottled by SHGY choke and have a competitive game.