How is us saying retail sucks -and you saying go play retail any type of solution, not seeing the logic?
Nope I already re-rolled once from my main off retail, not going to do it a third time due to blizzard greed and mismanagement. (plus being a low server I started alts to supply prof items already, not re-leveling them either).
Youâre not seeing the logic because youâre ignoring it. Not all of the people who want dungeon finder, mind you, but some of the people here say that itâs the pivotal part of the experience that they wanted and everything else is secondary. And for people who have that mentality, there is no other logical answer than to just play Retail. It has the thing they NEED, and they should stop wasting time with the thing that doesnât fulfill their needs.
Iâm not addressing you specifically, or even most of the people who want dungeon finder. Just the ones who insist that the game is meritless without it.
I mean, thatâs your choice. It is an option. Blizzard has horribly mismanaged the population and faction balance situations, but thatâs just the reality we live in at the moment. You can work around it and have a good experience playing the game, keep playing normally and have a bad experience with the game, or just quit. 
I think the blame is on Blizzard in these situations, but it doesnât change the fact that this game is only guaranteed to be live and current one last time. All that needs to be done is to weigh the options according to how important it is for you to be able to experience this content again.
you think me paying for and playing something I *and others, think sucks is a solution really, ya not seeing the logic??
See I picked another choice, and that is to give my outrage\feedback on the forums with others, not like Iâm running dungeons that much, so I have the spare time, just running around farming leather.
Iâve explicitly stated that Iâm not specifically referring to you. I donât know if thereâs a way to spoonfeed that concept to you any more than I already have, but itâs probably not something I care to waste my time on. If you canât read, it doesnât seem like a forum is the place where you should be having discussion about these issues. 
Oh, so your problem is fixed now?
then how about not telling it to anyone, itâs bad logic, hay you donât want this pizza you want this salad reallyâŚ
threads and post about RDF stop yet?
Would you mind quoting for me any of my posts where I said anything about store mounts and boosts?
Iâm the one who said what you are being accused of lol. So Bloom is Blooddrunk (exact same passive aggressive troll style). Blooms main is someone who does retail arena most likely (since thatâs where he started). Everyone thought it was someone named demoniclilly but not really any way to prove it 100 percent.
Btw I always enjoy when someone links that thread of bloom getting destroyed.
See:
Chaospower: âBloom wants store mounts and boosts.â
Aurumai: âDid he say that?â
Dumbcake: âIâmma say yes.â
They know a majority of the community wants it. However, they donât so they are right and we are wrong until their rightness blows up in their face, and then they will âlisten to usâ (after people start leaving) and give LFD/RDF to us. That is their MO.
If they do it, however. Iâm quitting. Yeah, I want LFD/RDF but the second they start showing the same mentality the retail devs have Iâm gone. The game is done for. They donât want LFD/RDF in the game they better stick to their guns and go down with the ship.
First off, no. It doesnât. Retail RFD is different from Wrath. Mechanically itâs a subtle difference but in the purpose it serves itâs a world of difference.
âNeedâ is not the right word. Retail has almost nothing I want and the garbage is have to put up with for the bits I do enjoy is not enough. Of Blizzard announces a cohesive plan to help alleviate the problems with low population and faction imbalanced servers before Wrath launches and is clear on what theyâre going to do about LFG I might play.
But if thereâs no improvement and no communication then Iâm going to want to keep my money more than Iâm going to want to retread the nostalgia grounds of northrend with classic talents intact.
I have never seen anyone articulate that.
What would be more accurate would be to say that a lot of people feel running dungeons is a key part of the experience. And LFD is a tool that allows them to do so.
Just go play retail is still a fantastically stupid statement as noone says running dungeons regardless of any gameplay beyond that is all that matters.
I for one am not about to sort through all 4000+ of the guys posts. And he says anything to get a rise out of whoever. So unless you want to go through his thousands of posts Iâm going to call it plausible.
Didnât seem to anti blizzard boost in this thread.
For some people, TBC starts at 58.
In conclusion, this game is for many people. Luckily, the boost is a choice, and if itâs not for you, you simply do not have to buy it.
Thereâs a bloom post for everything. Thanks for the legwork.
But see the thing is it did gel well with wrath. I also love how people go on about what is and isnât classic as if classic is this pure and holy experience, but if you actually look at how classic is you see itâs turned into degenerate gameplay in so many ways.
Whatâs that difference in purpose? The majority of the reasoning I see here on the forums for dungeon finderâs importance is:
Does Retailâs dungeon finder not serve exactly these purposes?
I disagree, with caveats. When weâre talking about people who will quit playing Classic if Wrath doesnât launch with dungeon finder, the feature is certainly needed for them to enjoy the content.
Iâll say again that Iâm not referring to everyone who wants dungeon finder. Iâm specifically referring to the people who value the feature more than the content itself.
I really hope they do. Theyâve bitterly mishandled population distribution, not only by turning a blind eye to it but even encouraging horrendous imbalance. I wish people were more concerned with that than thanking that dungeon finder will fix all of the problems this has created.
I might be misunderstanding you, but I take this statement to mean that dungeon finder was a key part of the Wrath experience. And if thatâs what you mean, I strongly disagree! Things did get to that point, but only after we had played through 75% of the raid content and more than half of the life of the expansion.
Youâre very right about that, and I think many of us can agree on it regardless of which side of this conversation weâre on. Whatâs puzzling to me, though, is that instead of people demanding that Blizzard start to take action and guide the playerbase towards more wholesome gameplay, theyâre looking at it as a lost cause.
Itâs frustrating to me that my concerns with dungeon finderâs effect on cooperation and communication in the game are almost never met with anything but âThereâs no community anyway, look at boosting, look at LFG spamâ. Some of these things can be fixed!
You certainly canât artificially generate wholesome communication on command, you guys got me there, but the reasons that many of you cite for wholesomeness being a lost cause are absolutely not set in stone. A lot of damage has already been done, but theyâre going to be breaking dungeon carries in Wrath, which is an enormous step in the right direction and should have a very tangible effect on the experience for all of us running dungeons.
The next things we should focus on them fixing are population distribution and faction imbalance. At the very damn least, those things seem like topics that almost all of us probably agree on and I really wish people discussed those issues more rather than turning to a short-term bandaid fix to them.
And I know that a lot of the people asking for dungeon finder want it for personal reasons, not because they perceive that it will fix these issues. I only say it because the idea that it will mitigate these problems is the primary argument for most of the people herre.
I understand rdf was only in wrath for part of it but I think it was a welcome addition once it was added. I LOVE the rdf, it single handedly got me into pve content, got me into tanking, which lead me to start raiding. Anyone who says it destroys social interaction, well it had the complete opposite impact for me.
As for my second point, I say that mostly because people who are against rdf always talk about the spirit of classic, but from how things have gone in classic up to this point I donât know if a lot of people even want a lot of that nowadays. They seem to go out of their way in a lot of cases to avoid some of that âclassicâ stuff now.
As someone who started playing WoW a couple months before 3.3, dungeon finder WAS a key part of my WotLK experience.
Thatâs great for Wrath, but weâll be playing Classic Wrath.
And you want to encourage more degenerate gameplay by adding in LFD?