Please rethink the soar nerf

I agree, gathering valuable materials faster than anyone else is actually worse. You have an unfair advantage over others when it comes to professions and gold making.

Exactly, that was a wise solution. Imagine if they treated it the same way they treated Soar, imagine they had nerfed Druid’s flying form to make it impossible to gather materials in flight form.

They should apply the same reasoning here, they should just make Dragonriding available not only in Dragonflight zones, but in the rest of the WoW areas too. Problem solved. Everyone’s happy.

15 min cooldown. Portals/Teleport have a 1 min cooldown.

Apples and oranges.

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This unironically. People arguing otherwise are literally asking for less in the game they’re paying box price + sub fee for.

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Not correct. If you go from hated to exalted it’s 85000 rep, Lets say you can get 1000 rep a day from quests, 85 days for non human, 77 days for human, but break it down into minutes spent questing, lets say 30, non human, 106 minutes, and human 96 minutes, its not a crazy advantage.

With Flying just normally for 100 minutes, current soar would save you 30 minutes of time.

As someone who was actively testing it, it was the right call. It just needs its cooldown reduced down to 2min if it’s only usable outdoors. I disagree with the advantages, but I don’t agree that a slower speed is a bad change.

I want to use it more often, speed is nice, but engaging with it more often would be better in the long run.

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I disagree, and that’s okay, you at least explained your reasoning without trolling. I appreciate it. :heart:

I do agree with this though:

Soar’s cooldown is ridiculous as it is now, please remove it or reduce it to 1-2 mins.

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If the abilities/cooldown didn’t start on landing, it might actually be 100% okay. I don’t mean to use the abilities twice. Just like an incurred 10sec cooldown to “Catch your breath” and off you go again.

Lots of ways to making it immersive. :slight_smile:

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Remember to show your support to our cause by throwing likes to the feedback about Soar given here:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-dragonriding/1279462/159

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Just need a blue to confirm that it was nerfed because it was too fast for the game to handle and not because they hate fun/the playerbase.

Because otherwise the majority will just assume the latter is true.

Your fun constitutes speedrunning content then raging on every possible form of social media including the forums at how bad the content is because you effectively bypassed it in 30 seconds.

Speedrunner: THERE IS NO CONTENT TO THE GAME GIVE CONTENT

Blizzard: OKAY HERE’S CONTENT develops 30s of trash content that gets speedran anyway

What was the nerf?

They reduced Soar’s max speed by 30% while leaving the ridiculously long 5 min cooldown untouched.

Soar being merc’d into Zen Flight and Forge of Light is only the first “L” we’re gonna take with this expansion. There’s a faction within blizzard product development that is absolutely convinced that games can’t be fun if they don’t tick you off.

Pathfinder. Legiondary acquisition. AoE cap. Azerite armor. Essence unlocks. GCD change. Conduit energy. Covenant cooldown. Rep locks. Again and again and again.

And then, in 10.2.5 when the metrics are in, they’ll acquiesce and make a big apology and release a dev blog called “we hear you” or similar, and we’ll go around again.

Make soar = dragonriding. Make dragonriding usable everywhere. Huge “W” and prove they’re really listening to feedback and not ready to stubbornly die on another hill with their colossal egos.

It’s a no brainer decision.

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Exactly, which is why you know it’s going to take them three patches before they actually make this decision–or longer. If they ever do.

Just do it now, Blizz, everyone will thank you. You can work on adding the new flight mechanics to existing mounts (with a toggleable option to keep old flying active) later.

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Lol I’m pretty sure they won’t do it but hey one can hope :smiling_face_with_tear::joy:

Guys please try to maintain the conversation in the megathread so as not to spam too much the forums, thanks:

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I’m good, I like having my own thread.

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But Soar is not a combat ability, and gives no advantage in ANY current content (which is where most players spend MOST of their time), and Dracthyr can ONLY be Evokers, and if Evokers are NOT meta (or close to it), people will not be bringing four of them to dungeons. And if they ARE meta, it will not be because of Soar.

No one is going to play Evoker in competitive content SOLELY because of Soar. If he ends up with 4 Evokers and a tank, it will be because 1) everyone is playing the new class because it’s new (which many will do regardless of Soar); or 2) because Evoker ends up being OP/meta in general, which again, will have nothing to do with Soar.

Druids already have instant travel form, immunity to polymorph, and four specs across all roles of the game, and you still don’t end up with groups of five druids. I don’t see how a more restrictive class with an arguably slightly better travel ability under ideal circumstances will be any different.

Nobody is going to shelve their current main and play a race and class they do not like in order to fly faster to pet battles and transmog farms in Kalimdor once every 5 minutes. That makes no sense, and if you think it does, then you are the one who has a problem with critical thinking.

I am not saying that everybody won’t be playing Evoker, but I am saying that Soar (whether it is nerfed , not nerfed, or outright deleted from the game) WILL NOT be the reason people are playing Evokers, especially not in dungeons.

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Folks really need to understand math better. And I am not responding directly at you, Holytemplar, just responding to the thought in general.

A reduction from 930% to 640% IS A 31.18% reduction. It is also a decrease of 290 percentage points. There is a big difference there.

For a moment, forget that there is a % symbol on the end of the numbers. It could easily be 930$ or 640$.

930 - 640 = 290
290 is 31.18% of 930

When the number in question has a % symbol after it, and you are SUBTRACTING, you are talking about a 290 percentage POINT reduction.

But, going from 930% to 640% is (rounded down by 1.18%) is roughly a 30% reduction.

Going from 200 to 100 is not a 100% reduction. It’s 50%.

Math… its amazing…

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If you’ve been running around on foot in Classic wow for 20 levels, then anything faster than a snail will seem fast enough for you.

If you don’t get it I can’t help you. You’re reframing the conversation and purposely ignoring points I’ve made so it isn’t worth it.