So something we learned about this last night: teleporting out and back in usually fixes it. And while we couldn’t see the person, they were still with us doing damage. We just couldn’t heal them.
It’s a ridiculously frustrating bug.
But it doesn’t warrant changing the deserter system.
Oh no, people are gonna quit my LFR run!!! They’re gonna quit out of my Heroic dungeon that I don’t do anymore!! Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!
It absolutely does. It’s causing a far greater problem to legitimate players than it’s acting as a deterrent to trolls. The benefit-cost-analysis has flipped.
Why don’t you tell us why you were really kicked? Almost everyone knows why they were kicked, and it seems like you were kicked for not participating with your group. If you want to get mad about the penalty being a thing, get mad at the tanks and healers that held groups hostage back in the day because “I’m not doing Oculus” or similar and demanded they be kicked. Get mad at the schmucks this expac that dropped groups after one boss because “wah my trinket didn’t drop”. Penalty was added because prior they could be kicked and avoid the deserter. SO blame those people.
Penalty is fine where it is. Don’t stuff to get kicked and you won’t have to worry. Just because you get kicked doesn’t make it “disrespectful”. You have no inherent right to make people group with you and if they don’t want you there, they have every right to remove you. Blizzard isn’t going to hold your hand like mommy and daddy and say “let your brother play or else.” And being blunt your attitude alone is reason enough why I would want to boot you from a group.
Lastly there is no such thing as unjustly kicked according to blizzard. If people constantly call kicks their ability to do so is diminished greatly. Also I’ve yet to see one single concrete stat of people doing this for the lulz despite all of you people saying there’s a problem. All of your “evidence” has amounted to “trust me bro” and that’s not good enough.
That was the reason I was kicked. Because I was phased, rejoining wasn’t working, and I was “wasting their time” by not leaving, even though I told them I could fight by them.
It does not.
This is the lesser of two evils. I was around before the debuff was added. Groups were hell.
This is not a systemic issue.
The phasing bug is an issue. My groups experienced it almost every run I was in last night.
There are tons of reasons why it exists.
I hope they don’t remove it.
Nah, dungeon spamming is by FAR the fastest way to level a toon, period hands down. This is actively detrimental to the player base and ACTIVELY exploited by bad actors.
the phasing bug is still on going as of 15 minutes ago
there is no possible benefit that outweighs exploitation by bad actors.
Buzzword of the month: “Bad actors”
This is the only topic that has a buzzword checklist that I see every single time. It’s like people are reading off a script. They’ve never vote kicked, never been vote kicked, never seen anyone ever who deserved the deserter debuff who wasn’t farming Sacbrood (probably never saw that either), yet they want to defend this with the zeal of a Catholic Priest. It’s so weird.
The vote kick exists exactly because of bad actors.
I didnt even know this was a thing. But it just happened to me prior to me seeing this post. I couldnt see the other group members at all. But I knew the dungeon and knew where to go and kept up. IT was weird though. Couldnt see anyone else. I would see the SP’s mindbender. That’s it. And sometimes a flash of another character.
Yeah, almost every group I was in had this problem last night. If it happens again, teleport out and back in. I’d suggest telling the group you got the phasing bug and you’re fixing it real quick by teleporting out and in. I didn’t see anyone get kicked last night for it. Ran about 12 dungeons with this happening to someone.
Me either honestly and I was going to ask how is it a thing.
Before resets I decided to finish up my 5 TW on my mage, we got Zul Farrak - Ugh - anyway, the tank, couldn’t see any of us. We finished up the Dungeon with very few issues aside from one dps pulling extra mobs from not being situationally aware, they died, twice.
No kicks were initiated. Healer could see us and the tank so.
No.
just happened in a pug azurgos raid too. Guess weird phasing issues are a thing right now
So, you’re solution is by removing the one thing that prevents from being grouped up being worse.
You know why they added the deserter buff to vote-kick? Are you asking for the same thing to happen exactly again?