the teleport while in combat is the abuse, not petri.
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so, every single use of petri that isn’t peabrained?
agreed. they can make the timer until teleport 120 sec instead of 60, that would be all that’s needed. they don’t need to literally remove petri flasks 
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Pretty sure you can petri indefinitely as I’ve seen videos of double petri to guarantee safety.
Only way to break it is stop the kick timer.
Eh, you could petri to wait on a CD or something. I also saw a video of someone petri after an engineer teleport fail and saving himself by scoping out mobs and getting a charge off in midair.
That’s the kind of stuff that, while extremely niche, is kind of cool preparedness and thinking ahead that I think should be preserved. Dungeon kicks in a petri has a much lower bar to success.
in eve online being in combat resets your logout… it can easily add a few seconds every time you get hit…
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that’s true, I guess the only solution is to increase the timer every time you are hit, even if you are invulnerable
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yup.
you’re in combat. finish combat’ing before you can leave.
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yeah that would be the easiest fix, no need to change petri just make it so that the kick from dungeon timer only starts once you exit combat.
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Fine as is really 
I agree, petri isn’t an exploit in itself. Just the way it is used 99% of the time in hc. Pairing it with the dungeon removal is an exploit there’s no argument. It shouldn’t be possible to do that in this mode.
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how many times have you exploited away from death
This feels like a troll post. A petri pot can only be used by level 50+ characters. The amount of Players that can actually use it is so small. Less than 1% of all characters created make it past lvl 50.
If you want to see petri removed, please do not show up for world buffs that the raiding community courteously announces. The Petri mechanic helps the high end part of the community going.
And yes inflation has gotten out of hand, I wish people spent more time complaining about Bots than Petri pots.
if you don’t want to raid with the risk of perma death, go to a softcore server
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It probably is to some degree, but petri is also really divisive of a mechanic within HC community.
I think if they ever do another fresh HC launch they should possibly look into how it works. Be wrong and call it an exploit if you want, but at the end of the day people pouting about it for current HC are pissing into the wind over it.
I think the funniest thing about this discussion is Blizzard literally looked at the mechanic before releasing official HC and said, “Nope, it’s fine” and people still think doing something that has been approved by Blizzard is an exploit; you can’t exploit something Blizzard says is not an exploit.
Most gamers, especially in an MMO, take advantage of any opportunity they can find, sometimes so far as to do questionable behavior that gets them actioned after the fact; exploiting LFR drop mechanics, Legion’s AP bug with WQs, and BFA exp potion bug to name a few. Or maybe an LoS exploit on a raid boss…not that I’d know anything about that.
It is ultimately laughable to me that anyone would be shocked that players would take advantage of something sanctioned by Blizzard, and furthermore have the audacity to go tell them to play on other servers because they using approved mechanics they think are bogus.
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Nobody is shocked, human beings are incredibly weak and willing to abuse the most ridiculous things to get an advantage in whatever way they can. There are people that pump oil into their biceps to look like they are more muscular than they are.
What’s funny is you think it’s unusual for players to hold the HC experience to a greater degree of integrity than blizzard currently holds it to. There is a big difference between being shocked at what the masses do and voicing dissatisfaction with the status quo. If you think everything should be accepted as is, that’s the only laughable thing here.
Fact is that petri being the way it is basically forces the playerbase into using it if they want to engage in endgame, and it transforms the way people engage with that level of content. All caution that they played with up to 50-60 dungeons(if they played right in their leveling experience and weren’t carried or gambling the whole way) goes out the window because they have an easy out button. The majority of the hardcore mentality goes out the window, because you can just petri out of a mistake or misjudgment and survive. If people are going to play this way, they really should just spare themselves the gold grind for petri and do their end game experience on softcore realms.
Another fact is, real hardcore players like me that hold the mode to the standard it should be held to are denied end game activity because it’s a team game at that level. If you’re not using petri, you’re not going to have groups to play with. Since people are allowed to use them, they will use them, and they will play around them. The whole reason leveling feels special and the community feels good is because people have death looming over their heads constantly. They play way more carefully and appropriately, they recognize the consequences of their mistakes. In end game, this doesn’t happen because they can just petri out of their mistakes. Watch sodapoppin or any onlyfangs streamer play if you want to see the effect. I’m sure you know about it already though because you use petri yourself.
End game hardcore will never be truly hardcore until they remove this “clever use of game mechanics”. As is, I have absolutely zero interest in the end game because it’s so damn soy due to the playerbase and blizzard for enabling them. At least the leveling experience is amazing though. 1-60 as is is already better than anything WoW has ever been.
Oooh so generous. They share their buff with the plebs and create what is essentially a world event for their invalid effort fueled by petri. I guarantee you that these people get off on seeing the main cities so full of players because they are dropping a buff. Do you have any awareness of human psychology? Probably not.
Me not taking them would make no difference, however. The fact that we get so many world buffs is actually harmful to the hardcore community. You think I want it this way, but you’re actually clueless. Many people log out when they don’t have world buffs, many people only know how to play HC with world buffs, many people refuse to enter a dungeon without world buffs. There is a big detriment to world buffs being as common as they are, and you think it is good but the real HC players know it is bad. It feels less meaningful, and the fact that it is enabled by petri makes raiding feel like a joke. I guarantee you world buffs would feel more significant and special if petri didn’t exist as is, and that’s what HC is about: feeling the weight of it all. If that all goes away at end game, you can count me out of playing the game at end game. Unbearably cringe.
It’s such cope to call this a troll post too. “Heh this is just a troll take I don’t have to take it seriously nobody really feels this way heh”
nobody is surprised in any way we just want the exploit removed. you are literally exploiting the dungeon kick out timer. petri flasks were not designed to be a get out of jail free card for instances. simple as.
It mostly is.
See also this thread on the same topic:
The major difference between these two threads is that ‘Reithardt’ is at the very least a character on a Hardcore server, so the individual behind the avatar at least has played some HC – unlike ‘Henceforth’. So there’s some credibility, but still not enough. Somebody who actually has a Level 60 character on a Hardcore server (looking at you, Eyr) who earnestly believes that Flask of Petrification is deleterious to the end-game on a Hardcore server would at least be able to demonstrate that they have walked-the-walk.
Slaying Nefarian isn’t really necessary and there are enough guilds that have Molten Core on farm that a Level 60 HC character (even if they haven’t actually raided) is at least speaking from a position from actually playing Harcore at the end-game unlike Henceforth in his thread, or Reithardt in this thread.
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WTB paid name change for HC – dunno why I just didn’t use the same name for my HC incarnation.
~More Gorgon Ana
And yet you’re still here telling people to go play on other servers.
“Find me a unicorn, then the position will be valid”
There is no such player because the current environment forces you to either use petri or quit the game upon dinging 60. Everyone is abusing the petri exploit at endgame. I will not be risking the character I grinded to 60 for groups that feel that mistakes are okay because they can just petri out. It doesn’t matter whether I am 60 or not, I will be getting there without petri and I will not engage with meaningful content because of the current state of end game.
Only troll in this thread is you for calling it a troll thread. It’s fine that you have the opinion that petricore is okay, but you do not have a right to deny the opposing opinion’s validity just because it makes you feel insecure to consider it is true.
They’re not wrong at all though, it is ruining the true hc endgame community to have petri the way it is. These players would have much more fun just playing on softcore because that’s what they currently do. It’s not hardcore to pay 200g to avoid death, that’s a very clear pay to win, or rather pay to avoid losing when you are a loser. It literally invalidates your entire character if you even use that exploit once in my eyes. Not that you will care, just like steroid users don’t care about the fact that they are abusing drugs to get ahead.
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