Omg, seriously where is BWL?

[Xyshina-incendius]

But in pvp their hands are tied. You can’t give a good, competitive pvp experience and keep the honor system. It only rewards honor/hr. Imagine the backlash from the #nochanges crowd if they scrapped honor for a better system.

Or you know…they could have kept it to server only ques so PVP guilds could exist again and communities could be built around premades and rivalries could ensue. Like you know…what made classic fun.

[Shadewalker-benediction]

Yeah, most likely, but I was basing it on the raid lock schedule.

[Zydax-kromcrush]

You know that isn’t true. BWL will be cleared in a week and all the good raid guilds will have it on farm status in no time. ZG will be farm status within a week for most as well. Everyone will be asking when AQ will be released within a few months after BWL and then a few months after that Naxx will be the topic on the forums. Blizzard has no reason to release content as fast as it is cleared because once all of the Classic content is released and completed, the people will move on because, at that point, there will literally be nothing left to do.

It is a wiser business decision to release the content slowly despite what people on the forums are threatening to do. Blizzard knows they ain’t quitting. All those old school players who never cleared Naxx want that chance…and Blizzard knows it.

You’re right about clear times. PServer guilds and guilds made of heroic and mythic retail raiders will fly through it. But people will still farm MC/ony for elusive drops, TF and for fun. It’ll just give people more to do. Also remeber the 20 man’s have a 3 day lockout. Plus your casual and less skilled guilds will take time to clear BWL. Believe it or not there are still players progressing in MC.

And we’ll be getting a raid every 5-6 months, if we’re farming nothing but MC/ony for a year people will quit. 5-6 months has been standard for a raid tier for years, in see no reason why blizz would deviate from that.

[Milanfrozen-stalagg]

I checked under the couch and in between the seat cushions and couldn’t find it. Sorry. I did find a nickel though.

[anon80134722]

Blizzard has no reason to release content as fast as it is cleared

No one is asking for that, but I do think they’re moving too slowly. And some communication would be nice for their customers.

Blizzard knows they ain’t quitting. All those old school players who never cleared Naxx want that chance…and Blizzard knows it.

That’s where you’re wrong. Blizzard HOPES they ain’t quitting, but I suspect many will. And that’s the risk they’re taking.

Me for example. I’d like to play some more content, sure, but not if I have to continue to pay a sub fee for months while doing nothing in the meantime. Raid logging isn’t my thing. I recognize I might be a small minority, but I suspect I’m not the ONLY person who isn’t crazy about paying for a game they’re bored with.

Blizzard is gambling with this strategy. I believe it to be a bad gamble.

[Zydax-kromcrush]

Or you know…they could have kept it to server only ques so PVP guilds could exist again and communities could be built around premades and rivalries could ensue. Like you know…what made classic fun

Except on most servers now you just wouldn’t pvp at all. Look at flamelash EU, all the alliance bailed. There’s less than 100 still there. Cross realm BG’s solved a real problem, however it highlights how bad the honor system really was.

[anon80134722]

I checked under the couch and in between the seat cushions and couldn’t find it. Sorry. I did find a nickel though.

Thanks for trying.

[Venomtongue-earthfury]

It is a wiser business decision to release the content slowly despite what people on the forums are threatening to do. Blizzard knows they ain’t quitting. All those old school players who never cleared Naxx want that chance…and Blizzard knows it.

This. (I need 10 characters)

[Bozho-frostmourne]

I don’t care for an early release but I still expect Blizzard to communicate with us their plan to distribute content.

[Chagin-mankrik]

4th of Feb. Bet

[anon80134722]

I don’t care for an early release but I still expect Blizzard to communicate with us their plan to distribute content.

Exactly.

If they tell me they’ll release it in 6 months. That’s fine. I don’t agree with it, but it’s their choice.

But if they tell me nothing, I get frustrated.

[Niia-whitemane]

No, they didnt. The posted about how they were unbundling battlegrounds from the phase and releasing those along with elemental invasions “the week of…” then proceeded to talk a tiny but about BWL coming early 2020, and finished with “we’ll announce an exact timestamps for that content release early December”. Meaning they would announce a timestamps for the December 10 patch in early December. People just way misinterpreted it.

They literally said:

"Blackwing Lair and Darkmoon Faire are coming in early 2020.

We’ll have an exact timestamp for this content unlock to share with you in early December."

Mention bwl and darkmoon, then immediately follow with ‘we’ll have an exact timestamp for this content unlock in early december’. If one follows basic rules of english compositon, “this content” would be referencing the content mentioned by name in the sentence that immediately proceeded it.

[anon80134722]

Totally agree. Seems simple to me.

[Twobbles-heartseeker]

I’m very angry with the way Activision is handling Classic.

But Activision is not handling anything with classic, only some of the old devs they brought back are handling the content. Activision may have had say in the server sizes of though given it saves them money.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

Why did they start a new paragraph? Because it was a CLOSING STATEMENT ON THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD; CLASSIC CONTENT UNLOCKING IN DECEMBER.

Classic Content Unlocking in December

@Kaivax

Warsong Gulch and Alterac Valley will open in WoW Classic the week of December 10. At the same time, Elemental Invasions will occur in Kalimdor, with Blazing, Thundering, Watery, and Whirling Invaders appearing in Un’goro Crater, Azshara, Winterspring, and Silithus respectively.

We’ve been following the deadly deeds of the Classic community closely over the last week as the Honor system sparked an impressive amount of World PvP on PvP realms, and we’re excited to see what might transpire over the next three weeks. Nonetheless, like many of you, we can’t wait to charge into some battlegrounds, so we’ve detached this content unlock from the plan we previously announced. Blackwing Lair and Darkmoon Faire are coming in early 2020.

We’ll have an exact timestamp for this content unlock to share with you in early December.

See you there!

The TINY addendum about BWL was obviously put there to assure us that BWL was not far off in the future.

The CLOSING STATEMENT of that post IS NOT ABOUT THE SINGLE SENTENCE MENTIONING BWL.

This is BASIC, Highschool level English reading comprehension.

Here is the early December exact timestamp:

@Kaivax

We will deploy this patch with weekly maintenance starting at 7:00 a.m. PST (10:00 a.m. EST) on Tuesday, December 10.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timestamp

A timestamp is a sequence of characters or encoded information identifying when a certain event occurred, usually giving date and time of day.

[anon80134722]

So they’ll have an exact timestamp for the content unlock that they’ve already told us was December 10th?

I get your reasoning, even though I disagree. But at the very least you should be able to understand why some people would interpret it this way.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

@anon80134722

So they’ll have an exact timestamp for the content unlock that they’ve already told us was December 10th?

@Kaivax

the week of December 10.

[anon80134722]

Ok, fine. It’s possible you’re right. Though I still have doubts.

But at the very least, even if you are, It’s very easy to see why people would be confused. We deserve clarification. Instead, Blizzard is just watching us arguing with each other on the forums.

Why don’t they just tell us when? It’s ridiculous!

[Piddy-uther (Piddy)]

I’m okay with waiting, but some communication would be nice.

It’s (was) the holidays. Nothing happens during the holidays.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

I’m not defending the poor communication and awful format of the post. I’m just letting people know exactly what it said.

Kaivax could have spent 10 seconds clarifying for the many confused people on this forum but he didn’t. It really does look like he doesn’t give a crap and just does his job for the paycheck.