At the end of the day, its rude to suck at not just wow, but all social activities. It’s rude to suck at anything where your lack of expertise has a negative effect on other people, be it work or games.
If you, or a friend, want to suck at a game, you need to stick to solo aspects of the game, or else you’ll just keep experience what you/they are currently experiencing.
You are free to play wow however you want, but you aren’t given free rein to drain value from other peoples $15 they spend on the game. If people are continuously determining that you are drain on their experience, the game enables those players to remove the baggage.
The main point to take from this is that the problem you and your friend is facing isn’t other players.
It’s not up to other players to train your buddy how to play. Neither one of you knew the dungeon when you went in. You’re going to need to learn dungeons and help him learn how to heal, since he doesn’t seem to have figured it out. Use websites like icy-veins.com.
I think DPS too often blame tanks/healers when there’s many things they could be doing differently.
Was playing my Hunter and we had the same group across multiple dungeons and I never died once while the other DPS were repeatedly dying because they were making errors or not using defensives.
Well that is unfortunately maybe you should post this in Cataclysm Classic instead of General.
If you never played cataclysm and you are at level cap or going for the level cap and queuing for a dungeon, you should at least KNOW basic things like don’t stand on fire, don’t let weird things hit you.
If you see red in your screen, you’re wrong and you should do something.
If you see a debuff and you don’t know what it is, you should at least try to move your mouse over and read what it is to understand.
To learn.
Mechanics are not hard, especially for older versions of wow.
You don’t need to be specialist for it. But you need to put at least some effort.
LFD is not granted carry. If you don’t put your weight, specially in classic, you’ll be put down with vote kick.
There are several means to learn about a new dungeon. You can watch a 5 min video about the dungeon, and you can play at 1.5x speed and you’ll get most of it.
Apparently he doesn’t. He needs a reality check. If he knew he wouldn’t be kicked that way. Maybe a bit of humbleness and consider that you can improve and learn more.
I see that you’re being just dismissive, ignorant and very disrespectful towards the community and your fellow players.
You are not a victim, neither is your friend.
You’re the cancer that we need to cure in this community.
Instead of victimizing yourselves, take a moment to think about your actions. Envy is the ugliest way to express how you admire something yourself will never achieve.
Calling others “toxic”, “MDI wannabes” just show how petty and small you are.
You’re making a valid point justifying the kicks without realizing it.
Mainly, that nobody actively WANTS to be in Wailing Caverns. Nobody.
All anyone in Wailing Cavern wants is for that dungeon to be over as quickly as possible.
Having a player in the group that is sandbagging the rest of the group means everyone else has to be doing something they don’t really want to be doing for even longer than they already had to. It’s not a great feeling, and if the group can identify what’s slowing them down, they are almost certainly going to get the boot.
They can play the new player introduction which was designed specifically to acclimate new players into wow and the basics of the game. They have a friend who has been playing the game, this is a failing on the friend to explain what’s going on.
At the BARE MINIMUM, they should at the very least be able to read the dungeon journal which explains every fight they might get into.
Additionally, they shouldn’t be queuing up for the hardest role the game offers. Queuing up for healer as an effectively brand new player is like graduating community college with your associates, then joining the Navy as an Engineering Officer onboard a nuclear sub, responsible for making sure the reactor doesn’t melt down.
Except in this case, the LFD system has no way to determine that this community college graduate is not qualified to be the Engineering Officer and accepts their application anyway, and then the nuclear reactor melts down and all hands are lost in the depths of WC.
Blizzard is very lenient with the system. It will allow anyone to queue up for basically anything and will give that player a chance to prove they can fill the role. The flip side of this freedom is if the player proves to NOT be capable of performing in the selected role, Blizzard has empowered the community to solve that problem through a vote of their peers.
The system is not being abused. It is working as intended.
Well, even in dungeons, there are roles that people expect you to know what you are doing before you just jump into them and expect other people to deal with your inexperience. Tanking and Healing is two of those roles. There are so many things out there to teach a person how to do things the right way, tools to make the job so much easier and videos to know what to expect. Most these tools have been around for many many years and are expected to be used.
Those who jump in blind and flounder around hopelessly expecting others to suffer while they just happen to pray to pick it up. Well they need to expect to get kicked from the group. If players have been doing it for the past 20 years of WoW to learn how to do it the right way, guess what, the newer people now can do it too, to learn to do it the right way.
Strangers on the internet aren’t obligated to play with your friend. “Kick abuse” doesn’t exist as every kick requires a majority of people to agree, do some other content or make your own groups with the people on wow made easy if you want a more laid back experience.
lol…ironically they dont need to train his buddy, but when I mentioned that tanks need to LEARN A BASIC PATH thru a dungeon and NOT waste four other players time, this forum lost they minds over that. lmao.
The selective outrage in here makes me want to vomit most days lmao.
lmao…sure it does son.
The kick was created to get rid of abusive players who were intentionally causing issues in a run…not to kick someone because of their mog choices or because they made a wrong turn and quickly corrected.
if you think those two are valid kicks, YOU ARE the problem with the kick system
This is LFD we’re talking about, blizzard learned in Cataclysm that any semblance of difficulty is categorically not allowed in content that has an auto-queue.
I guess Blizzard is part of the ‘problem’ then: “Players may choose to remove any other player from the group for any reason, provided the vote to kick passes.”
doesnt surprise me.
Ive seen them trying to kick players for no reason right before the last boss lmao…in leveling dungeons for god sake.
But hey…its the same jokers who keep whining “muh MMO’z” when you ask for more solo content
Irony in here is, and pay attention and see if you dont see it…the SAME persons defending abusing the vote kick will be the same persons defending abusing the flag system in here. Read the responses and see if you dont see the pattern
And the same persons will toss a fit if you tell them your exerting YOUR right to put THEM on ignore in here, even for no good reason, just because you can.
If the group decides they don’t want you in the party anymore, that is their decision to make.
It creates a worse experience to enable players to force their presence on others who don’t want to deal with them.
not that you’d know anything about that.
you have the right to not interact with anyone you don’t want to. Blizzard decided it would be better for the group as a whole to remove 1 person than to force 3-4 others to leave.
