go do something else with your time today son…stop stressing yourself awake at night over me lmao
for those who actually know how to read…the vote kick system was NOT brought into existence because blizzard decided one day …“HEY, I KNOW HOW TO TROLL PLAYERS, LETS MAKE A VOTE KICK SO THEY CAN REMOVE PEOPLE OVER THEIR MOGS”
SORRY to any jokers in here who believe that trash. lmao.
the kick was created to remove PROBLEMATIC PLAYERS....PERIOD...END OF DEBATE.
Blizzard doesnt have the TIME or MAN POWER to monitor the kiddies abusing the system and we ALL know it. They cant spend the $$$ paying someone to read 1000 tickets a day for kick abuse, lmao…we ALL Know that too.
So they say ‘for any reason’ so they dont have to bother with it…and THAT is why they allow it for anything…and WE ALL know THAT as well.
again…END of debate.
I would suggest you quit being so disrespectful of other players who don’t agree with 100% of everything you’ve ever said, but I’m not sure you can.
im sorry but you look like a grumpy cat
with the outfit and it’s hilarious and cute lol
The last bosses were the easiest ones that rewarded valor points
You don’t have to agree with it, but if 3 or 4 other people decided the wanted you out of the group, they are allowed to do that at any time.
As you’ve no doubt been learning, if people don’t want to interact with you, they shouldn’t have to.
And I think it’s telling that Lio claims to have ignored me (multiple times, on multiple of their sockpuppets), yet still responds.
Had a tank in one of the Dire Maul runs who tried to kick someone at the end of the run. He literally stops, standing there, refuses to pull the boss, wasting our time.
Didnt pass.
Then tries to kick the healer who had been doing a great job, I mean, its a leveling dungeon lmao…how hard can it be?
Fails.
Tank sits down on the ground like a child. Im not exaggerating here. lmao. Refuses to pull the boss because we wont kick anyone.
So I pull with my hunter pet and the tank runs back the way we came and left the dungeon.
Honestly I think it was easier to finish the run without that clown, lmao.
So the four of us started talking and yeah…none of us had voted to kick anyone, it was the tank.
In total he had tried to kick 3 of the 4 of us before we could do the last boss. lmao.
In a leveling dungeon.
For NO reason whatsoever.
The mindset of ANY player who thinks blizzard DESIGNED the vote kick for that kind of behavior is a mindset that doesnt belong in an MMO…ANY MMO…in the first place.
They should be playing skyrim themselves and not projecting their personal probems onto the rest of humanity
Report system exist and its automated ban if its a mass report
Votekicking is easy abused if they’re premades
Pretty sure vote kicking should be only allowed in raids.
This is like torture for new players
Every part of what you said in this post is your opinion, and not supported in any way by the reality of the game. It might be true… the same way that there might be a giant man in the sky that likes to inflict cancer on children! Since there is no evidence to support the claims, that’s all they are.
It is incredibly easy to make yourself immune from vote-kick altogether, and it also makes it much more likely that the group is going to be supportive of your style of play. If you queue in a group of 3 or more, you cannot be vote-kicked, and you have control over how the vote-kick is enacted if necessary.
It is simply not that common to vote-kick from an underperforming player, who makes one mistake and they’re out. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but I’ve literally never seen it in the history of my time queueing for dungeons. When people get vote kicked on the premise of their ability, it’s almost always after many screwups, and the player is completely unresponsive to feedback. Does it happen? Certainly. Does it happen often enough to be a problem? No.
Blizzard enacted a system that allows any majority to vote-kick any person for any or no reason. Everything that you infer beyond that is definitionally your subjective claim on the matter.
I don’t use votekick in the manner being described in this thread, nor have I seen it being used as such with any sort of regularity. However, even if it WAS being used as such, it is tacitly allowed by the system until such a time that Blizzard states otherwise or changes the behavior. As the poster above said; there is already a system in place to allow people to report those abusing systems, which means that Blizzard have already addressed the issues that you are claiming remain.
It does not matter how aggresively or abusively you claim otherwise, or how you try to insult those you disagree with; your opinion on the matter is objectively wrong in the current state of the game. You’re right that they didn’t set out to say “how can we troll new players today”, but what they almost certainly DID do is decide that the potential downsides of such a system were worth the upsides - that is, allowing majorities to vote-kick minorities for any and all reasons, despite having obvious flaws, remains the best option for the smooth operation of the game.
It’s ok to dislike the system, but to pretend it is something other than what it is, or to ascribe intent that simply isn’t described by the behavior or the installed system, is disingenuous at best.
I dont mind the kick being an option given some of the trashy trolling behavior ive seen…but that trash behavior has literally been like…I dont know…nearly ALL of the invalid vote kicks ive seen. lol
Meaning the vote kick has been so misused in my personal experience that the person who SHOULD have been removed fromthe group was the circus muppet who was trying to vote kick someone else.
Personally in going on 7 years of playing WoW, Ive only felt NEED to kick a handful of players just to get them gone because they were literally hindering our game play.
Dont get me wrong…pugging is an obnoxious thing a lot of the time, but Id personally rather just tab out of chat, get the run over with and then put that player on ignore rather than kicking them and having to wait for a replacement.
again…THIS joke never happened…PERIOD.
and to claim it did is to slander blizzard staff claiming they are a bunch of juvenile chidren who dont take their jobs seriously
The vote kick was put in place at the time to remove problematic players…PERIOD…and endlessly chirping about it claiming otherwise is simply an admission of one abusing the kick and trying to justify it in owns one mind.
People who do shouldnt be allowed to play MMOs, if you ask me because they are a blemish on what games like this are supposed to be.
“muh MMO’z”…lmao…while kicking players for no good reason
the abject hypocrisy of it makes me vomit
“Problematic” is an undefined word; in the context of WoW LFD groups it has no objective meaning - only a subjective one that you ascribe to it. Blizzard did not install the system with the express intent of letting people kick people due to transmogs, but it is an unavoidable outcome of the system they did install that matched their other criteria. As a result, it is allowed, despite being potentially undesirable.
As I said; it is an irrational and disingenuous claim to say that anyone is claiming Blizzard installed the system to troll people. They weighed pros and cons and decided on an iteration that offered a balance they were ok with. You are, again, ascribing meaning where there is none, because it suits your argument. Nobody is saying what you claim they are saying. This is called a strawman.
“I vote kick cause I dont like your mogs”
lmao.
all Im seeing in here.
and the same persons get bent when you tell them youre putting them on ignore for no good reason
“I vote kick cause I dont like your mogs”
lmao.
all Im seeing in here.
and the same persons get bent when you tell them youre putting them on ignore for no good reason
Who has ever got “bent” when you told them you put them on ignore? Why would anyone care?
You told me you put me on ignore 3 replies ago, so further to the question why would anyone care, why would anyone even believe you in the first place?
The point is that what’s problematic for you, might not be problematic for someone else, as is the case in reverse. This is part of the reason queue’s remain single faction, because some players find it problematic to group up with the opposite faction, based on some lore or headcanon reason.
Now if you keep your chat to yourself and do your job,
Probably a tall order for that one.
The real hilarity of these kick threads is the long list of posters who are literally admitting they kick other players for NO VALID reason whatsoever.
Otherwise they’d just say they HAD a good reason…player was doing X and causing disruption.
Instead you all can see them here literally defending vote kicking for NOTHING the player was actually doing WRONG but incessantly reminding us that daddy bliz says they can kick for ANY reason they can come up with…LMAO.
“MUH MMO’z”…and then they abuse other players like that and then wonder why no one wants to play with them lmao
Instead you all can see them here literally defending vote kicking for NOTHING
Again, and this is from my experience, if I keep my chat to myself and do my job, I’ve never been kicked from a run.
But those nights my game was off, or I sling an insult, or got DCed, yea I’ve been removed. But I’m adult enough to know… it was me, my fault, and those other people were simply responding. Sorry, just can’t buy “but I’m a victim” here, try adulting for once.
Again, and this is from my experience, if I keep my chat to myself and do my job, I’ve never been kicked from a run.
But those nights my game was off, or I sling an insult, or got DCed, yea I’ve been removed. But I’m adult enough to know… it was me, my fault, and those other people were simply responding. Sorry, just can’t buy “but I’m a victim” here, try adulting for once.
your experience is your own. Ive been kicked less than a handful of times in nearly 7 years and only one of those was because of my ‘behavior’ and that was because, being a new player and not understanding the game. I had specced into tank while signing up as DPS thinking it was ok. I refused to change specs and they kicked.
Again…I had been playing a few months at the time and didnt yet understand the 5 man dynamic of dungeon running. I just didnt want to die so easily.
the OTHER times I was kicked.
- mogs… ridiculed for my mogs and kicked at the gate.
- panda…called fatty and kicked at the gate.
honestly those are the kicks I remember so in 7 years nearly of dungeon running a lot, I can only recall THREE kicks, and ONE of those was moderatly justified.
BUT…
MY issue with the vote kick…the ABUSE of it anyway…is MY experience seeing so many vote kicks where I KNOW the person wasnt doing anything wrong.
Did you NOt see my post above? lol
Had a tank in one of the Dire Maul runs who tried to kick someone at the end of the run. He literally stops, standing there, refuses to pull the boss, wasting our time. Didnt pass. Then tries to kick the healer who had been doing a great job, I mean, its a leveling dungeon lmao…how hard can it be? Fails. Tank sits down on the ground like a child. Im not exaggerating here. lmao. Refuses to pull the boss because we wont kick anyone. So I pull with my hunter pet and the tank runs back the way…
believe it or not, the game doesnt revolve around the “Ive never been kicked” sorts…the rest of us have our own experiences and if you READ this forum much youd SEE all the vote kick threads that come up confirming that its happening whether YOU see it for yourself in game or not.