Levelers abusing layers

Perhaps this is correct to a degree. WHen I watch a professional in whatever craft, I am interested in the level and proformance in the craft itself, not if the person would make a good walmart greeter, has a nice body, or says my name because I gave em beta bux. I suppose it is perference.

You’re not intelligent enough to realize that the reason you aren’t a pro has nothing to do with not “no lifing for a month”, it’s because you aren’t good enough and don’t use the time you have in a productive enough manner. You lost all credibility when you said you can get to a pro level in a month. That’s one of the dumbest, smoothest-brain things I’ve seen so far on this forum.

The game knowledge and mechanical ability required to be over level 50 at this point in time is exponentially higher than what the average player has. It takes years, if not a decade+ of practice and cumulative experience

Lolol decades of experience to aoe grind mobs and follow a quest tracker

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Is really easy to stop layering abuse. Any “Idiot” with 50 IQ can stop that

  • Adds 3 minutes cooldown by changing layering: No matter if you D/C, logout, reset your stupid modem. For 3 minutes you can’t change layering.

  • Adds 30 seconds cooldown to all yoru abilities AFTER layering change. So you can’t attack anything

  • Add 5 minutes cooldown to chest, mining and other enviroment. So if you open a chest on LAYER 1 then you move to layer 3 you cant open another chest until 5 minutes has elapsed

  • Add a cooldown after killing special “mobs” on the map. You just killed an area boss ok now you have a cooldown of that battle

Simple as this i dont know why blizzard “DIE of NOTHING”

Yes, he’s a private server player who has been speedrunning 60 for years. There’s a reason he’s the highest level out of millions of players right now and even has such an advantage over the 2nd highest.

wasnt this fixed?

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/c5r821/big_news_internal_cooldown_added_on_layering/

I was thinking about this too - how to “fix” this issue (if Blizz indeed wants it “fixed”).

I think your cooldown idea might have merit but perhaps only if you change layers twice in X minutes. I don’t think many people would do that and it would remove more “huh?” moments for “regular” players.

Another thought that occurred is (using the threshold above) remove xp gains for x minutes after swapping more than y layers in z time.

I’m sure there are many more ideas on that. Again, IF it’s something Blizz wanted to fix.

Well, I’m sure Math PhD’s still use calculators and computers for calculations =P

I am glad i was able to spark a good debate here. Hopefully Blizzard will do the right thing and roll them back or ban.

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He is working his tail end off to 60. Kudos. Layering or not. He’s the type of gamer that if layer hopping were ‘fixed’, he’d have a plan B. I am in no way threatened by the success of others who power game: are you? He is smart for capitalizing on the once in a lifetime Classic launch to build his brand.

As one poster said already, there is a larger financial incentive in 2019 than ever before; don’t we all understand this or know people who actually stream for a living? Pro streaming is harder than many think (try it yourself for a week), and there are days streamers do not want to play, but have to, just like any other job.

I’m actually fine with the OP complaining about it, however, as it provides a different perspective, and shows the disconnect between more casual players, and those who have evolved the gaming/streaming industry.

Blizzard knows the benefit of brand proliferation through streamers, so don’t expect them to cater to those unfamiliar with the new social gaming client; it’s good business on their part.

find out how many layers he was jumping between and divide his experience and levels by that number.

/Move on

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creative us of game mechanics, not breaking any rules

they are not going to just scrap layers because of stuff like this

Could have sworn athena got banned for abusing mob tagging like that.

But lets be honest, whoever gets first place in anything is usually cheating. Or atleast more likely to be cheating.

no one can say whats “intended” other than blizzard. this comes up a lot, and they are very cryptic about how they rule on these matters

if they come out and say its an exploit, then its an exploit. if they say its fine or more likely do nothing then its fine

why? it doesnt affect almost anything o.O let the world first battle end and you’ll never hear another thing about how layering hoping is ruining the game. All it will do it negatively affect players later who are switching layer for whatever reasons.

This. It’s up to blizzard to decide if it’s exploitative. Personally I don’t think so, seems like a boring way to play and too minmaxy for me, kinda like dungeon grinding.

I thought layering had a cooldown? What’s going on?

I like the fact as olo player in the real world is beating out the grp and raid dungeon grinders, that feels truly terrible.

But it still doesnt feel good to see abuse of any system that wasnt in vanilla.

Today on fake news!! Zed… tell us.

Sure. These numbers are a little old, because I don’t offhand remember the articles’ titles. And it won’t let me put them in.

economist dot com/business/2017/08/17/computer-game-tournaments-go-mainstream
economist dot com/the-economist-explains/2016/07/14/why-sports-teams-are-recruiting-video-gamers

Now, you can’t really gauge exactly how much the total ‘market valuation’ is in and of itself. They’re a little old figures as well. There’s two ways to puzzle this out: prize money and the amount of capital being dumped into the market.

As far as prize money, The International and some of those Tencent-backed LoL prize offerings are wayyyy up there. As far as capital dumps, that’s what the links are for. Estimates and acquisitions are up. The markets are huge.

IIRC ESPN wanted to start its own streaming service, but it’s going to run into the issue that most folks who still grab cable do so only for sports channels.

In any case, you think worldwide Cricket beats the numbers floating around esports? The amount that streamers tug in from companies and brands looking to promote their junk? (Some people separate this out as its own separate industry, but I find that to be kindof foolhardy - it has the exact same competitors as ‘true’ esports in the entertainment world.) Bowling?

You basically have football, american football, and maybe the NBA/MLB that can stand up to digital alternatives at this point. And interest in those (as gauged by viewership and revenue) has been steadily waning, with a lot of money being dumped into them reflective less of market interest and more of corruption.

That is, investors aren’t pouring in money - governments are laundering it for stadiums and ritzy packages. And it makes sense! As more people watch digital sports events like EVO or TI, they’re less likely to watch traditional sports. As that share of the market grows, the share of the market that is older necessarily wanes. (To speak nothing of how popular it is in Chyna.) Crack open the tallboy and get to fishing in your silver age; the world’s a-changin’.

So?
People did this in retail too with an addon that automatically joined groups for you to leave with the press of a button so you could phase.
This isn’t new…
And he isn’t breaking any rules.

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