Let's talk pvp for real

I did my rank14 grind during a period that transcended both 1.10 and 1.11 when AV changed. We very quickly identified and adjusted to the AV changes when they happened. People today are no smarter than they were then. We figured out how to rush Vann, maximize honor, back doors, everything within days. The excuse that people somehow know better now is straight BS.

Before 1.11 we never ever played AV for honor. After 1.11 we only switched to farm AV on AV weekends because thats the only time AV queues were short (we had instant queues in WSG/AB). It wasn’t until cross-realm came out with 1.12 that AV all-day, every-day became the new meta and EVERYONE hated it. I am so thankful I finished my grind before 1.12 because all my friends that hadn’t finished theirs yet were absolutely miserable.

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done

again you haven’t changed my argument at all

Same problem in vanilla not sure why this is an argument

blizz choose to use the 1.12 AV and the player base naturally gravitated towards the most efficient way of gaining honour though it, the player base doesnt get to be part of the decision making process, unless they decide to change the amount of honour or what ever the difference between the earlier version is nothing will change and the fact that they choose to go with the 1.12 and there isnt a massive backlash at it simply means that there is no way they will go back on their choice

There never should have been cross server queues. That was the dumbest move.

It theres faction imbalance on a server, the overpopd one owns world pvp and gets longer bg queues. Thats vanilla. Now blizz just spread the imbalance evenly to every realm for bgs.

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The only reason that’s not a good idea is because it only fixes half the problem. It doesn’t fix alliance being grossly outnumbered in world pvp. Mercenary mode would be a giant middle finger to alliance players on pvp realms. There would be no reason for any alliance to stay on any pvp realms except heartseeker, and you get retail pvp realms where every server is 99/1. Obviously nobody wants that.

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exactly. someone that actually played the game. all these trolls in here who think they know crap and continue talking out of inexperience gets annoying fast

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Say what? The most liked post on these forums is all about how 1.12AV is a terrible idea.

i havent seen many threads about it, i have however seen a couple of posts about it but nothing that screams massive backlash

Immediate backlash from way back in March. Over 1,300 likes.

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oh i guess there is a outcry over it, fair enough.

so i skimmed the thread, seems the earlier AVs dragged out for a long time, you probably wouldnt get any honour from killing the opposite faction after a while, why would any one bother doing it?

People in wow only take the path of least resistance. Atm that’s AV spam. The honor system rewards pure time investment, not skill. AV premades are significantly more efficient honor/hr than WSG so that’s what people do. I agree WSG is more fun, but it’s not the meta. You’re never gunna get the 2005 meta back because it’s not 2005. And same server BG’s won’t fix the faction imbalance in pvp. It’ll just mean people on some servers will be better off, while others can never pvp.

Zydax did you play vanilla wow? because you have no clue of what you are talking about

it doesnt matter whether he played vanilla of not, this is what you have whether you like it or not, i dont know how if he played old vanilla wow or not invalidates what his said.

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“Doesn’t matter whether you like the Spy addon or not, it’s not changing”

is that the only thing you took from my quotes is my personal attack against him? Stop white knighting

gonna be honest i dont know what that is

edit: googled it, sounds useful downloading it now

you are at a computer use google and type it in

the only thing you got from mine was me defending him? youre stuck with 1.12, how you gained honour in 1.5 or which ever patch is irrelevant.

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I don’t get you’re point? We don’t have pre 1.11 pvp. So my point stands. You’re never getting it back. There’s no way to fix the classic meta short of nerfing AV honor, or increasing alliance queue times to make WSG more efficient.

We’d all be better off with a broken AV and forced WSG pre-mades.

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