Yep yep, here’s a post with the screenshot (I no Trust level 3) Excluding the Slime Cat from LFR is not Okay - #35 by Maizou-proudmoore
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Yeah I am kind of confused by the OP’s title. It seems to imply that the whole Council shares one opinion, while citing a thread made by a Council member against the limits on Slime Cat.
I am in the “let LFR have it” camp. Others are for it being limited to Normal and up. Others really don’t care.
The point of the Council was to have people from a wide variety of backgrounds and play styles. That is exactly how it is working despite the OP’s attempt to paint things as one hive mind.
Yes, the achievements that were part of the meta did replace ‘any difficulty’ with ‘Normal or higher’, but again, the meta itself never made specific mention of any difficulty.
So that’s not the code from before stating it couldn’t be completed on LFR?
Why would it need to if it’s complete x achievements, those would determine what people would need to do for it.
I mean the Glory or the X Raider achievements don’t list a requirement, but we know by looking at the list that we will need to do heroic for some of them.
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This is pathetically pedantic.
You got caught in a lie, move on.
I posted a specific CC post, in a thread that has more than then trying to justify the mount staying Normal.
It’s both the old and new text, with different color coding. Really if you wanna see it for yourself just go to wow.tools and look it up. But it still proves they changed nothing other than some text strings, not how the achievement works. So no, they did not change their minds and removed the achievement from LFR.
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A fair point, but I’d argue that it needs to these days because…look what happens when it doesn’t specify. lol
You’ll forgive me if I don’t believe you and a third party data mining site.
It’s not a lie, though. I’m pointing out that the meta never had any wording replaced, which some people seem to think happened. It had wording added because people initially got what was apparently the wrong impression from it, but nothing got changed with it.
It’s an automated tool dude. Seems we’re going deep into conspiracy territory here, don’t forget your tinfoil hat!
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Your title says “the CC” which means all of them. If you meant “an individual on the CC” or “some of the CC” then just say so. The fact that the thread against the change is made by a CC member on the CC forum is kind of proving the point - the whole CC is not in favor of the change.
I realize I am being a bit picky, but I get sick of people painting everyone with one brush when it is not remotely true. People online have terrible reading comprehension and take titles as facts. Your title is not remotely a fact. Oh, and Community Managers are not Moderators. The Forum Moderators are a subset of the CS/GM team.
I am against the exclusion of the mount from LFR too, but I dislike the premise of the thread to call out groups, inaccurately.
No one thought the META meant any difficulty though, we looked at the achievement list and saw that the 3 achievements listed for the META said any difficulty. So no the META doesn’t need to reflect it because no one based the “any difficulty” thought off of the meta.
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But…the meta achievements are what have the rewards. Of course people are going to look at the meta description. That’s why people are claiming that the meta got changed as well, even though it really didn’t. Point against Blizzard for causing this whole mess in the first place, since a lot of people have ended up confused and frustrated by it.
Which is goalpost moving to cover yourself, since stating “the achievement never said difficulty at all” as a REBUTTAL means you were talking about the achievements being talked about, which did say any.
You lied and it blew up in your face.
You’re the one playing around with 3p tools (it being automated is kinda irrelevant, your posts amount to “just trust me bro, have faith in father blizzard”, so yeah, not the most trustworthy I’m gonna say.
Fair enough, my apologies.
Ah I was unaware of this, I thought all blues were moderators/had moderation privileges/oversight so I said nods as short hand.
Because the public tools can only datamine the client which is a terminal for the purpose of display. Of course it doesn’t show any changes to the server side hookups that flag the database for the achievement, because you can’t datamine those.
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People are talking about the Meta changing because it makes it easier to understand, but no one has ever said the Meta said “any difficulty.” What they are talking about when they say it changed is that the requirements changed. If you really believe that people took no difficulty listed on the Meta to mean there wasn’t one then why don’t we have waves of complaints from new players about the Glory Achievements? Because no one looks at it that way.
Yes the meta has the rewards, but people understand that to get that reward you have to complete the other things. Things which said “any difficulty” on the live servers even. Then it got announced that any didn’t really mean any, and so people said the Meta achievement got changed.
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What is this “friendship” moose run you speak of? I didn’t see that. I only saw runs that were for sale.
I haven’t seen a big Kuymbaya montage since Cata.
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It being automated and me not being the owner of the site kind of makes it impossible for me to alter any of the data, so it’s a reputable source. Feel free to open your DBCache.bin file and verify the hotfixes yourself, but I doubt you know how to do that. So how does me presenting actual facts refuting your theories amount to “just trust me bro, have faith in father blizzard” when you are the one making everything up?
Granted they could be different you have no reason to assume so though. The achievements respective CriteriaTree and linked ModifierTree nodes on the client end indicate that it was never meant for LFR. It’s not like NPC data which is entirely omitted from the client.