Some non GDKP runners have also been banned for buying gold.
By your logic we should ban everyone who doesn’t run GDKP’s.
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Nice strawman there.
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Yes they have. Support Forum Agents will be very clear that you need to make sure you trust the people you run a GDKP with given you don’t know the source of the gold.
Recent Blue Posts in relevant threads:
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And I bet every single one of them got overturned.
Do you need to trust the people who buy your auctions?
Do you need to trust the people who sell your auctions?
Is it my responsibility to police Blizzard’s game?
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“Sure, you can totally do this thing, but we might ban you anyway because it’s the perfect avenue for RMT’ers to operate”.
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The thing is it should never be the players responsibility to do blizzards job in blizzards game.
That’s my gripe
Everyone can equally buy gold, that MVP can be buying gold, how the hell would we know??
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The sensible thing to do, in that case, is to just ban GDKP altogether. Too many innocent people getting caught in the crossfire and they have no good answer to that but to say “sorry”. The work they put into navigating this cluster of mistakes is probably more work than they would end up putting in to it if they just said no to begin with.
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No, they did not all get overturned. Yes, people have been banned for using the AH to transfer illicit gold as well.
Generally you are fine with the AH, but if there is a pattern of it, they do penalize people. That has shown up on the CS forum too.
The general advice is much like real life, if something is too good to be true, it often is. Beware things that seem shady.
See above. Some activities are just plain risky.
I tend to be risk averse, and don’t do group content, so I would not be worried about my account. I get it though, you have no real way to determine if the gold you are getting for your activity is illicit or not. Blizz has no real time method of checking and shutting it down. It ends up being handled in ban waves after tracing gold and accounts moving it.
I don’t disagree at all. It is currently like a shady back alley. If you stick with friends you are probably good. Go alone or with strangers and you never know what you are getting into.
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Well, you could always not go into a GDKP (player made and implemented)
Unlike with the AH, which is something already in the game. (made and maintained by the people who made the game)
Notice after all this time they never added a GDKP loot option?
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Master looter was made by the people who made the game.
It was made to give raids agency on how they handle loot.
Gdkp is a loot system.
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Master looter
GDKP is not.
GDKP is almost like playing with free parking in Monopoly.
It is not a default rule. But if you read the book it says “yeah, that’s pretty common. But it’s not us that did it originally.”
GDKPs aren’t to that second bit though.
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It’s literally an auction based loot system which was made possible by Master looter.
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You guys still lying about this huh lol.
Are you also saying that other loot systems like loot council, or dkp or how ever guilds decide to distribute loot should be banned?
So, I can go into a raid right now and switch my loot mode to GDKP?
So when something drops, I can input my amount and the bids go?
No? Just dice rolls?
huh
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No I never said it was built into the game…pay attention.
I said master looter was put in to give the raid agency on how it handles loot.
Can you go in and do a 2x SR in the game??? No you can’t but when a raid is saying LFM BFD 2X SR you understand a few things.
The raid is bfd.
The LOOT SYSTEM is SR.
It exists because Blizzard allowed Master looter to exist.
Gdkp is a loot system.
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If you can point where the dirty money is, sure.
But that dumb system is exploiting for different reasons (depending on the guild)
And there’s no laundering happening there. Just loot “council”
So you understand the basics of why it’s frowned upon.
Where did you lose it from here?
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Honestly all this is showing is that blizzard needs to make a solid stand one way or the other than GDKP’s are okay or not.
If they’re okay then getting RMT gold in one should be no different than getting RMT gold from any other source. If that’s being selectively enforced well that’s a huge issue which is once again on the blizzard side.
Yes, it does mean the raid leader gets to decide how they want to handle loot. It is the responsibility of the people attending the raid to ask the loot rules, and leave if they don’t want to work with that raid lead.
BUT
The Master Looter is a loot option - but it could use many many types of sub systems to determine how the ML would hand out the loot. Blizzard never added anything beyond that.
Not Loot Council
Not DKP
Not bid DKP
Not GDKP
Not anything else…
They left it at ML only. They do not actually support any of the common guild/PUG loot systems that are used with ML.
GDKP is certainly allowed. Using gold that is illicitly acquired is not. I realize you don’t know where the gold came from, so you feel the risk should not be on you to bear. However, it is. Blizzard considers any gold trade for services like getting loot/running a raid, to be unsupported. So if it goes wrong they won’t step in and help.
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