Why is anyone defending Blizzard? Why are we pretending there isn’t a problem?
I realize the PvE guys want to rub it in the noses of the elitists who thought they were good for playing on PvP servers and who are now doing nothing but crying on the forums. I also realize that the horde(which are the overall majority) largely cannot understand the problem because it doesn’t affect them(or they’re having fun gang-ganking the pathetic alliance).
But this dismissive attitude about Blizzard’s mistakes is giving Blizzard cover by keeping the community fighting with itself. We should be speaking with a collective voice to make Blizzard fix their game.
Every thread and every comment should be “Blizzard fix your game”.
Blizzard created a problem that everyone should have seen coming months ago, and then THEY let it go on for a full month. Had they let it go on for two months, or three months, would you still defend them?
It should have been fixed a week ago, or a month ago, or from launch. So please stop defending Blizzard, they don’t deserve it.
Just have your guild meet in ironforge, then all fly out to red ridge and AS A GROUP ride out to BRM:) no one died once! I managed to gank a lowbie questing and we wiped the horde clean out of BRM:) they came back with like 80 peeps tho, but we were in MC then.
Worldwide pvp shut off switch,
until factions get into acceptable levels is one option.
Trolls screaming at others to re-roll, would be forced to … re-roll.
That’s how you run a Gank server.
Want to have an unbalanced server, fine, you are now a PvE server… officially.
Up to the population to fix themselves at that point.
You are right. The damage is already done and classic is over for the casual players. That’s what happens when blizzard refuses to implement faction based queue systems. The game will destroy itself with people fleeing to servers they can actually play on. Until the end when every PvP server is PvE and no one has fun anymore.
“You think you do, but we are going to make sure you don’t”
BG’s being released will fix 90% of the problem. But why is it taking them a month to release BG’s? Phase 2 has destroyed classic, and continues to destroy classic, and everyone should have seen it coming.
The population imbalance is a problem, but the real problem is that the Vanilla Honor System doesn’t reward honorable PvP, it rewards dishonorable PvP.
The advocates of phase 2 imagined big PvP raids going head-to-head at BRM or at SS/TM, with massive brawls for world bosses.
What we actually got was flight-point camping, corpse-camping, and lowbie-ganking by hundreds of people farming honor 10+ hours a day.
Roll carebear PvE or go back to retail. Classic PvP servers are for those that can handle it. If you can’t go somewhere else. Don’t ruin it for the majority that are enjoying this.
We will see how they deal with the next angst on Oceanic servers ie potentially massive queues for horde … Technically, even if there are stupidly long queues, they shouldn’t touch it …but this will be horde tears and they are Blizzard’s fav’s.
Normal servers are in fact doing the SS/TM thing.
Gank servers are ganking, we did warn folk about this when these forums opened up for names.
The only thing I can say is that they released p2 way too early.
If most of the unbalanced servers had another month or 2 to get to 60, might have seen different outcomes.
You can’t blame Gank servers for being Gank servers though. That’s completely on that type of player, not Blizz.
I think a PvP shut off switch really could solve it.
Pvp Shut off if level 60 levels go past the 60/40 mark.
Possible solution.
I’m still waiting for what makes a game “dead”. People (generally speaking) like to toss this word around, as if it means something. When I ask for them to define it, they don’t really answer. It’s a bullying tactic to try to scare the Classic community away from Classic
Trying to have you understand.
These gankers are doing simple math, they need honor to rank up. the flight paths are the best source. They were in Vanilla too, but we rarely had the number to hold a FP long, much less what they are doing today.
If you ask for BGs that creates waiting lines for them,
where they won’t be gaining honor, where will they go to gain it?
Well depending on the p3 launch,
if it’s BG Quing, they will be at your BG and the FP guarding it.
You are worth more honor, even if you were in the BG, you are worth more in wPvP than in the BG.
If it’s city BG Quing, nothing will change from today.
Well possibly if you all are Qued in the city, they will come to the city and wipe it, still more honor gain with the possibility of killing world leaders.
I really don’t think people are understanding the honor grind, it’s a viscous thing to get to rank 14.
p3 is going to solve nothing, it will make it worse (for gank servers).
but hey I said releasing p2 early was a mistake,
I wasn’t in agreement with DM being released early either.
So I’m not one they are listening to, lol.
(but I haven’t been wrong either)
At this point … and after many, many, many deaths … I couldn’t care less what happens but really want the queues just to see how Blizzard reacts … or not … Blizzard has made their bed and they need to stick to their model. I am annoyed at Blizzard not the players. They created a drooling, vulture-like faction on many servers because of their incompetence. If It was a fairly balance server and a faction was better at teaming up and coordinating good for them … But mindless overwhelming numbers for one faction is a recipe for disaster for both sides.
If they waited for everyone to hit 60 they never would have launched p2. And at least 90% of the population had hit 60 on at least one character and many more were leveling alts.
But the PvP servers weren’t like this before Phase 2 and they won’t be like this after BG’s are released. Nor were they like this in 2005.
A lot of people came from private servers, all of which were PvP servers with populations as big or bigger than classic servers, yet people leveled to 60 just fine there even with the honor system being out at launch.
Had they launched BG’s with the honor system, no one would have quit playing, and we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now.
