Big agree, and why it frustrates me that people feel just such a need to bring in negative comments on things they either know nothing about, or seem to have an active grudge against for -whatever- reason.
It’s up to us to let ourselves be a little more known. Something we need to work on and will be working on.
It’s very exciting to see so many people rolling Horde on Remix and getting a taste of the races. I’m a little nervous that once Remix ends, people will return to their mains to get ready for TWW, but I hope they enjoy seeing things from the other side for a while. We’ll doing what we can to make ourselves more visible and available to explore new stories on our side of Azeroth.
I’ll drop a link to the forum thread, as well as bump it again, for anyone interested in Horde roleplay. But yes, The Horde Vanguard does have a discord to help introduce and get to know the guilds involved! Is it the whole Horde Community? No, but a healthy portion of it! If there are questions or anything, we would love to hear from them directly!
EDIT: If you guys liked the Draenei heritage (Which was amazing as a former draenei player, myself) I really encourage people to do the orc heritage quest when they get a chance with remix making leveling so easy. Honestly, a good introduction to a deeper flavor of orcs and the clans.
You’re not going to get the same walk up experience on Horde Side for Rp, there is that niche moment it happens. But Horde RP MG side is definitely guild/community driven RP. But that is what is nice about it. You get the Quality over the Quantity.
No matter what if you’re willing to build your character and not just be the Pick Me Rper out of twenty seven other pick me’s. MG Horde Rp is one of the better quality of Rps on the server as it brings out more story, more focus, and better developed characters. This of course is my opinion take it as you will. Join the Horde we vibing.
I am not anything remotely close to a serious rp’er, I was an Emerald Dream transplant who followed friends over here that quit later on. As a personal note I enjoy my rp to have pvp mostly around territorial disputes from my years over there.
With that said I’ve met a few people horde side that felt the same as I did, and when I play my Orc Shaman, we que some bgs then put our finest spikes and wolf pelts on, get on our various wolf mounts and go “For The Horde’ing.” It’s fun, it’s simple and to me it’s a form of rp not involved around /rolling that Alliance side has so much of (not knocking it just not for me.)
Not nearly the same number of people as Alliance side, but I don’t see 1/2 the innuendo on trps that I do Alliance side either. Undercity seems a bit sparser then it once did, there used to be a small group by Razor Hill that is sadly gone now. But whether that is Dragonflight burn out or other options who knows.
I leave for work for a few weeks, and come back to a random alt troll account trash talking the Horde without any facts to back up some pretty wild malicious claims. Somethings never change. Except war. War never changes.
Back on topic, this is dead horse so badly beaten that even necromancy can’t help it. There is Horde RP, no it is not the size of MG Alliance for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with the player community: uninspiring central locations for rp, Blizzard story, and more.
At the end of the day, give it a try and if it is not your thing that is okay. So long as you find a place where you feel your $15 a month is valued, that’s all that matters.
Well this took a sour turn more than anticipated. By no means I’m trying to stir anything personal with anybody or a faction. I just hope whatever OP ends up doing in the end can find happiness on Moon guard whether it’s Horde or Alliance. More role player is a win for the server.
In short, MG-Horde is almost entirely guild based. Our version of walkup RP is joining Discord servers and asking around - you will not get that roll the dice kind of walkup you’d see in Stormwind like the poster above me seems to be after. We also don’t have super wide coverage, guild-wise. There definitely some good ones out there, but if you’re after some of the more obscure or niche stuff you may find the experience lacking. I play a Vulpera and while they’ve been very welcomed at RP events, I don’t think there are any Vulpera/caravan focused guilds that I’m aware of, for example.
There is definitely also an ebb and flow to activity, too. It’s much more noticeable since we have less people - we recently finished up a campaign, so most folks are occupied with the Pandaria Remix, catching up on other games, or unwinding from DMing at the moment. If you’re after some kind of RP scene in particular, let us know here - I’m sure someone can point you in the right direction
I’ve played pretty much only Alliance for some time now after BfA because…well, reasons. I’ve been lurking on the Horde Vanguard discord for a while and honestly I really can’t wait until the Panda Remix is over to check out some of these events. There’s not a lot of you guys but you really seem to put in a lot of effort and it’d be a nice change of pace.
So you can count on at least one shockingly obese Pandaren and an alt army behind him in the next expansion!
At the end of the expansion, every server will feel a slowdown and throw in the MOP: Remix; it will just be lower everywhere. Blizzard is less interested in keeping people in retail for this lull. They are just interested in keeping people in the franchise. Be it things like Remix, Cata Classic, Season of Discovery, or whatever. RP will be one of the first things to feel lulls, but it isn’t an indicator of the long-term health of any server; it is just that time time again. Anyone that has played this game for more than one expansion is used to it.
See above. There may be more random horde around because even the guilds that are around are also feeling the end of expansion lull with people doing other activities as part of the franchise, so they are just seeing what is going on outside the traditional go-to story areas.
MG Horde is not dead.
WRA Alliance is not dead.
It is just different in the styles. Some are more guild/community-based, and some are more open walkup-based. Both have their place, and both have people that enjoy those kinds of things.
I don’t think a week goes by without being told that my guild or my community is dead just because we are not seen in Stormwind in mass. No, we like to utilize the world for our stories and not just live on the walls of Stormwind.
So, for some of you, just because one side doesn’t have what you want doesn’t mean it is dead. It is different. Go to the server that better fits what you want, and stop trying to be a downer on the folks who are passionate about their RP and having fun.
There is plenty of Horde RP on Moon Guard. The even have a dedicated server where some guilds gather to run Horde-centric campaigns.
I believe one may of just finished as well. I saw some advertisements for it not too long ago. I don’t play on Horde MG very much anymore, but I know there are people dedicated to seeing that side of the server flourish. The community might be smaller than the Alliance, but there are plenty of people willing to go out of their way to host events.
There really isn’t a reason to have an arguement if you aren’t someone who is actively playing on MG H. I keep seeing people constantly go after each other and it’s really just disheartening. If you aren’t happy with the state of RP, leave and move on to the next thing.
I think a thing about Horde RP that is missing people here on the forums is the “just join all the guild discords” response. Is that easy to do? Is jumping into the absolute chaos of Discord being welcoming? For the most part, no.
The Alliance is a little better about finding you out in the world, but in general with Discord RP became a fair amount more cloistered on both sides.
A lot of it is due to years worth of everyone learning that they really want more control over who they hang out with, when, and why. Bet you most people running a guild have some stories to tell about why they are less open to strangers than they once were.
I’ve gotten that same impression which feels rather anachronistic given the context of current timeline. Though I’ve the same feeling towards Alliance groups that act that way, it’s just a larger community on MG so there’s more variety amongst them.
Personally I’ve always found the independent factions generally more interesting for stories too so… There was a Horde oriented group doing rp events but it died out last year, though the events were quite fun. Plenty of people in that group who were all sorts of backgrounds.
The wc conquest events I’ve gone to had a fair number of horde characters too(though some were strikingly antagonistic towards everyone else, but then so were some Alliance…), but I don’t really know what outside of fighting things are common RP activities if you do play on MG Horde, and aren’t in a guild. WrA is similar in that regard but it has a little bit of city rp stuff in Org, though Thunder Bluff used to be fairly active years and years ago and it isn’t now.
I did make a Drakkari troll for timerunning and by the end of that event, will see about what’s going on to do things with him for RP, cuz I generally prefer Horde stuff, just not the Garrosh/Sylvanas Horde stuff, lol. It does appear that there’s actually a lot of Horde chars playing it so maybe it’ll help bolster the RP community afterwards, hopefully?
On the flipside about the antagonistic remark earlier most of the typically Horde-related races have been less bristly to Dracthyr for my own experience. Kyanoz has probably stronger political ties with the Horde than the Alliance through RP stuff, tbh, just won’t swear fealty to em. It’d be nice to just go to whichever faction city/town I want and do stuff with whomever, and there’s some steady progression towards some semblance of that so maybe one day.
P.S. I think Trilink had a good point about people also preferring to be more selective on their interactions though; I don’t just wander Stormwind much either.
Playing whatever concept you want for your character is sort of the opposite of having the environment being authoritarian.
Which…happens? Kind of a lot? More people = More potential RP partners who are into the things that you’re into. Sure, the sheer numbers game will mean that a lot of people aren’t, but it’s super easy to curate your own experience and just focus on the ones that are.
I’m not personally into big guilds, my own is just basically a vanity label and bank where me and a couple of friends moshpit all our alts together to throw story at each other, so MG Horde doesn’t really have what I’d be looking for. No shade on them, but the large guilds left aren’t super interested in fostering a game mode that they don’t really partake in (walkup RP). I can’t really say that it should be their responsibility to do so either. But large guild storylines is what MG Horde offers, and while that might excite a lot of people, it’s not for me.
People being comfortable saying “this is what I want from RP and this is where I can find it” is a good thing. It doesn’t have to turn into a contest, and no one approach is the “best” one. It’s all YMMV.
Man’ari being welcomed into the Alliance is now established lore, Gnolls existing is lore. What’s up to personal interpretation is how accepted people would be to having them around, which is really kind of just up to each individual player character.
There are so many cooks in the vast stewpot of the story of Azeroth, and there’s almost never a hard, fast line where they’ve said “This is impossible” that they haven’t immediately turned around and had exactly that thing happen. The people who write the game’s lore don’t need us to turn on each other in what we imagine is their defense. Just cruise on if your interpretation of what would normally happen and if it’s possible that there are individuals who are the exception to the rule varies from the players of the characters that you see around you.
The glorious thing about there being a ton of people around is that you’re bound to run into people eventually who agree with you that you can hang with.
I wouldn’t say this is a great way to represent your guild here. I understand that some random people came out swinging at you guys, but you’re saying that with your whole chest under your guild banner.
A scant few have been accepted, and you fail to address those Man’ari who are still unapologetic, pro-Legion, though, I am certain you would simply drop it under the "personal interpretation. "
And this was in response to another individual in the thread, not my personal take. Perhaps read back up before trying to have a “gotcha” moment.
All in all, I shall go back to my corner and have fun. Good day.
I’m going to throw in my two cents: Having walk up ro delegated to only one hub/city does not mean that a server is thriving. If anything it’s dying and people don’t want to hear the death rattle. WRA Alliance was like that. And then it died out.
Sure people will say “But Raina, theres Duskwood.” Again same issue. Rpers like to put their eggs in one basket instead of putting them in different baskets. This why you see Gnolls and Man’ari in Stormwind cause no one really ventures out.
Horde side has the same issue. That and theres not enough niche guilds out there. Youve got guilds for undead. Cool. A guild for the Tauren…cool…a Guild for the Orcs. Cool. A guild for the blood elves. Cool. A guild for trolls. Cool. But what about Nightborne, Pandaren, etc? Wheres the merchant guilds? Civilian type guilds??
And another thing with mentioning guild rp, people dont want to interrupt those events. Or want people to be apart of that without being in a guild. When I rped on WRA Alliance I was in a guild that allowed people outside of our guild take part in our events and other guilds. Guilds need to be more open about that sort of thing.
The Horde Vanguard is great at only producing one aspect of the Horde and thats the war aspect. But when it talks about the civilian aspect its not that great. Thats the one thing I missed about Coalition of the Horde they catered to just about everything and made people feel more at home. Theres more to the Horde than just fighting. Just as theres more to the Alliance than just Stormwind.
I wish we could go back to before SHL with the different projects that catered to just more than one thing. That was nice.
The great thing about some of these complaints, is that anyone can be the agent of change and create the very things they are complaining doesn’t exist.
I’m just dropping this off here since we have been hosting it every week since 2013. It’s always attracted walk-up Horde RPers, with a variety of neutrals attending. It’s a pure, casual social RP, without any focus on war beyond what players may or may not do based on current personal plots.
