How to get 12 million subs back. Step by step guide

Sounds good but with master loot in 100% guild groups only and a race cooler than vulpera for horde.

You were so close to perfection

MOP classes were so fun. I loved my elemental shaman and casting on the move. The warrior was great too. My favourite expansion for PVP.

And all us adults have to work for a living :frowning:

You will never get 12 million again Blizzard has burned to many bridges with the player base over the years. Many no longer trust them and have moved on to other games or quit/grown out of games all together.

its a different time now then back then they wont ever get 12m subs back.

its a different gaming generation.mmos are a dying breed.

People in Fortnite grind out cosmetics each season only to have them replaced next season by newer ones.

I’m getting close to dropping gaming altogether because the gaming industry has turned into :put_litter_in_its_place:

Classic is fun, playing at my pace but it’s like playing Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Resident Evil or FF7. It’s nice going back to when games were good but sad at what gaming has turned into, I spend more time on the forums than playing games these days.

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IMO, it starts with faction balance and making pvp fun again. IDK if they just gave up on pvp, but that is a BIG draw to the game that they are completely ignoring.

I hear you but I have no intention to quit gaming myself its my main outlet to unwind but all these AAA companies are not getting my money anymore.

Bring Back BC, LK design. Totally agree with the pvp vendor comment. Make 2’s matter again. It’s a damn game. I don’t really care who’s disenfranchised. You’ve been catering to people on the forums blizz…If i want to play mirror comps then why can’t i prove that i’m better at playing a mirror comp? Not my fault you refused to let it be. I remember getting weapon rewards and it was awesome. Bring back reforging… No need to take it away. Get finished coding flying earlier in the expansion (yes i said it) no way you were just playing it by ear. You seriously just waited until people complain enough and I don’t think you were ready for it, or you would have done it earlier. Only reason why you waited so long. The game is more fun with flying. The game is more fun when pvp counts for gear. The point of the game is to be fun. It doesn’t affect people’s credit score? Oh and make the classes as fun as DH to move around on. You have a whole 3D of the game you haven’t explored but need to with an updated engine. You can do it blizz!

They did. Now mythic+ players claim it’s gonna kill the game and ruin mythic+ lol.

Disagree. I appreciate the new ease of access and use. Streamlining is usually good, in this case it’s good.

Corruption gear will add flavor, depth, and risk/reward to gear.

Mythic raiders have screamed all expansion about how hard it is to fill their teams and keep their players around, the last thing we need is for it to be even harder for them.

No, it was too easily and too commonly abused.

maybe.

maybe.

No. I enjoy pathfinder and think more players should learn to appreciate the work the developers put into the game.

No, they’re already a Horde race.

They did.

No. Players need to earn them just as the rest of us did.

So you’re saying that for-profit companies are doing stuff that makes them profit?

WoD launch would like a word with you.

It’s entirely possible. IF the game is good.

The game is good. We aren’t always going to enjoy the same things in life. The mmorpg genre isn’t as popular as it was back in the day. WoW is still holding the the throne and crown.

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agree w/ everything but making mythic 25 player, fueling a 20 person roster is hard enough, having a 25 means you’d have to fuel 30 + people and 5 of those would be rotating in/out for bench

The game is not good according to millions more players. When it comes to it that’s what should matter to a publisher.

That some 1-2 million actually enjoy the game doesn’t get rid of that fact. It’s a game that can easily score 10 million concurrent subscribers if it’s done right.

Essentially I’d rather you be disappointed than dozens of people behind you.

Oh and plenty of us are subscribed that don’t enjoy the game. Why? To support the publisher. We want change. We don’t want the dev team to be reduced to a maintenance crew while they cook up some other crazy idea for bringing people back.

Genres don’t die. Especially the MMORPG genre. Classic showed that, too. But this is a much longer discussion that eventually comes around to instanced content killing the experience of both games. Eventually.

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Says who? Where did you come up with that number?

Where are you pulling these numbers from? I live in the real world and work with real numbers, I don’t like in pretend-land.

Some players on the forum screaming isn’t new, they’ve done this since the dawn of the game. Now we just see it on youtube and twitch since players make money from it.

:roll_eyes: well that’s not how to create change. Continuing to support somethint you claim you don’t like only shows the developers that they’re doing something right since you’re still here playing their game.

Genres branch out and progress, just as music does. We’re in a much further progressed version of the game than what we were 15 years ago.

From the WoW dev who said 60% of their current subscriber base is Chinese. Though I could be butchering that quote. It’s not high in NA and hasn’t been for years.

It’s floating around in different places but you have to dig for it. Look for the interview with the dev who said the playerbase is mainly Chinese.

Actually I was wrong, the quote was 70%. See: Retail Playerbase is 70% Chinese According to Blizzard Employee

Most don’t complain on the forums. They just leave.

Participation metrics are a horrible way to gauge player interest. A better way is to just ask the players if they enjoy it. It’s not difficult!

And as I said, the worst possible outcome is they don’t have the money to sustain development on lore and Art (both of which I gladly pay for) because the game isn’t worth the price of admission. If I stop paying for it that just puts more pressure on the publisher to let people go which TBH, isn’t going to help the game.

What genres have branched out? Be specific. Are you claiming that BRs are an evolution of MMORPG or something like that?

You mean that unnamed guy from a streamer interview? Yeah, really credible source. Not only just a streamer, but Destiny. I’d put as much faith in him as I would Heelvsbabyface. lol

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