How poor do you have to be to want dual spec?

[Rotationn-illidan]

Na, the majority have just quit. You really showed them! Hilarious watching the zealots kill their own game.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

If they quit over not having dual spec, then they were tourists and didn’t really want to play tbc.

Still plenty of people playing and enjoying tbc though.

[Rotationn-illidan]

Classic was a mistake the 2nd they ever listened to #nochanges. They had a real shot to keep the soul of the game but add much needed QoL changes. Instead we get to watch two burning corpses with a third on the way because they tried to force this no choice crap in SL. Hopefully they learn from this and never listen to zealots again.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

The change zealots are what gave us garbage lands to begin with.

We like tbcc and classic being as close to origional as possible. The more changes you force in the worse it gets.

If you don’t like the game, don’t play it. Stop trying to forcibly distort it to meet your wants when you know you didn’t want the origional game to begin with.

[Stopdotnlol-myzrael]

@Torkarth-bigglesworth

No. It’s not about wanting something for nothing. It’s about how even back in OG TBC people wanted a dual spec system. Turns out people still want it, and it seems like a generally popular idea still. Wanting to fix a system that has some really obvious flaws doesn’t make people retail babies.

You shouldn’t circumvent a core aspect of a game’s design just because it’s popular. The system isn’t flawed inherently, just some people prefer to not have to think about what they’re doing with their character. That’s fine, but in TBC your choices are supposed to be important, so it’s your job to adapt to the game and play within its design, not expect the devs to change the design to adapt to you.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

The change zealots are what gave us garbage lands to begin with.

We like tbcc and classic being ad close to origional as possible.

Friendly reminder:

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

Guild banks don’t go against the design of vanilla, they actually corrospond with it very well, they just were not in vanilla, but fit perfectly with the design goals of vanilla.

#NoChanges has really always meant #NoChangesUnlessApprovedByMe

[Dreamsphere-westfall]

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

If you don’t like the game, don’t play it. Stop trying to forcibly distort it to meet your wants when you know you didn’t want the origional game to begin with.

Goes both ways. If you don’t like the QOL changes that seemingly the majority are asking for, don’t play it. You were here during vanilla classic saying the same crap hiding behind the same retail character. Go away, old man.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

Two problems with your comparison.

1. The game devs didn’t specifically state “no” to guild banks in vanilla
2. The games devs intended for guild banks to be in vanilla but didn’t get around to it inside of vanilla life cycle.

Was dual spec ever intended to be I’m tbc? No. The game devs specifically said no to it and gave their reasons why. This tells us it went against their design goals for the game.

Lastly guild banks didn’t make it I to classic, so this reduces the likelihood of dual spec being put into tbcc, which I’m Thankful for because even after listing how it damages the game design of rbc and showing how the origional devs from tbc felt about dual spec to prove it goes against the game design they set, you still refuse to accept the answer given y the very people who designed tbc.

If you need dual spec wait for wotlk. Let tbc be great for what tbc is, and in turn when it comes out, let wrath be great for what wrath is. And if you can’t handle that, go find a private server that has all your wanted changes and play there for all I care. Just stop trying to ruin tbcc any more than it already has been. Because people like you won’t be satisfied until it’s retail 2.0, then you will complain that retail 2.0 sucks.

If you don’t enjoy the game, don’t play it, stop trying to disform it I to your broken image of what it should be.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

Everything you said there is false, once again.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

If you want the QoL changes you can find them elsewhere. Stop trying to ruin a perfectly fine game instead of fi ding the game you want to play which already exists. Go back to retail it has all the “QOL” you could ever want.

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

No, if you want a #NoChanges game go play a private server that tries to do that.

Go.

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

Guild banks don’t go against the design of vanilla, they actually corrospond with it very well, they just were not in vanilla, but fit perfectly with the design goals of vanilla.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

Really, your going to continue ignoring the quotes given of the devs from tbc saying NO to easily swapped specs, aka dual spec?

Do you want me to link them again?

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

I’m going to ignore everything you said because all of it is lies or manipulation. You twist and turn the words of the devs and propagate double standards and misinformation.

I’ve pointed it out enough. Everyone can see it.

Go play a private server if you don’t want changes.

[Dirthyg-whitemane]

It is absolutely ridiculous that we they implement stuff like epic flying out the gate but dual spec is held back.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

Epic flying was in tbc…

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

@Delimicus-heartseeker

I’m going to ignore everything you said because all of it is lies or manipulation. You twist and turn the words of the devs and propagate double standards and misinformation.

No Dual Specs - Blue response inside

bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/98646792-we-need-free-respecs-or-spec-swapping/ Here you go, I’ll quote it here: This has been addressed many times before and I have to tell you, the answer is still “no” to both for the same reasons we’ve always given. There should be real investment into choosing a spec and reducing the cost or making it easy to do simple swaps would make the whole purpose moot. You’re assuming a bit much here. Your assumption is that we haven’t asked this question many ti…

Try reading what is written for once instead of what you want to see.

It’s not even my words I’m giving you, it’s from the blue tracker back in 2007 in tbc.

They said NO.

As a little more to quote it for you here is the closing line from it.

“I gave a clear and direct answer on this based on recent discussions. You can believe that as you wish.”

[Delimicus-heartseeker]

Dual Spec is not respeccing.

[Bearyalln-tichondrius]

If you think a lvl 10 alt with a silly name is arguing in good faith you’re gonna have a bad time lol

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

SPEC SWAPPING.

Do you not read?!

bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/98646792-we-need-free-respecs-or-spec-swapping/

The title of the thread the blue was responding to has OR SPEC SWAPPING in it. Dual spec is spec swapping between 2 saved talent trees. You’re the one in denial here because you don’t want to accept the truth being put in front of you.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

I use this character for forum discussions. It keeps all my replies and history on the forums in one spot. I don’t try to hide my present or past discussions by changing forum characters regularly like some people do.

I have used this character for forum discussions since cata broke the history of my main when I realm transfered him for the first time. I wanted a character that I could use on the forums and never have to worry about name changing or realm transferring and losing my forum history mid discussion like I did in cata. It was a pain in the butt to teach down the 10 or so topics I was discussing back then when my forum history broke because of the realm transfer.

I use this character to not have that risk any more.