HC server is Pay to Win. How is that Hardcore?

If that’s how you want to play it it literally doesn’t matter to anyone else, so you do you boo. No one is going to be impressed either way you have a toon.

It’s all relative regardless, levelling a hunter to 60 is a joke and not at all comparable to successfully doing it on a shaman. Someone can alreaedy just grind green mobs and never be in danger.

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No it’s not the same, but again if thats what you want to do, especially if all you want to do is end game stuff, then so what. The fact that you take an easier route, won’t affect me and it won’t effect how I level. I certainly won’t care that you made your trip to 60 as easy as possible.

In addition to not impacting how I level it also won’t impact me end game as if I do decide to raid that is going to be based on my performance at 60 and if I can do my job. It won’t be impacted how I choose to level up, even if I choose to do something difficult like level up naked.

The thing is there is no winning in wow, its a game, how easy or hard someone makes something really only matters to them. There is nothing saying that it will be fair, or that everyone will want to play or experience the same things I want to, and to be honest there shouldn’t be.

The AH, mail and trading all have very little to do with making the game easy or hard, in your example above, you don’t even need to twink yourself, you can simply have your friend escort you around. In the end, it still doesn’t matter.

Sure thing :wink:

Doesn’t affect me in any way.

That’s what the HC servers will be and HC will be better for it.

Yea, non-official HC. I am also not worried about power leveling…

Those rules were followed because it was HC on an open PVE server not meant for HC. AH and Trading will be fine, it’s how the game was meant to be played.

Alright lol

Yeah don’t see blizzard making a server for a MMORPG that doesn’t allow for a huge portion of content not able to be done. Especially when the challenge can be 100% self imposed at any time a player wants.

No, no, the integrity of one death will be rather set in stone it. Though perhaps an existence of a bug(s) might break that from time to time.

The supposed SSF crowd? It seems that no matter how small the chance to cheat is they’re going to take it. By that I mean that from what I’ve gathered in my conversations the fact that others will do stuff they feel is cheating it is far too tempting to not also do. Even if it means not playing by the set of rules being claimed is desired.

The rules are 100% self imposed and 100% self broken.

I’d hope people who want the challenge don’t cheat themselves out of said experience but the more I see people who want this playstyle the more I see they don’t actually want to do it but instead just brag about doing it while attempting to cheat as much as they possibly can with out getting caught doing so.

They sure could, but if you want a challenge people can not buy that service from said 60

There is and I can’t really think of an issue that isn’t a choice being made to ruin said experience of ones own solo self found challenge.

Sounds like you don’t actually want to do the challenge, which is perfectly fine.

Or you’re going to cheat and lie about doing a leveling challenge on a 19yr old game.

Either way you know?

I mean if you want to play solitaire and cheat yourself out of said experience you can do that. A bit odd but I do some weird things while playing the game too…So have fun I guess?

You can do this with the addon as well :smiley:

Because the bulk of your posts are opinions. Opinions I disagree with.

Pls link where I complained about being forced to trade. Your are conjuring nonsense to prop up your opinion. All I’ve done here is ask for SSF the be supported officially as an option.

WTH are you on about here? I was discussing hardcore, not raids. Are you in the correct thread?

HC is NOT Pay To Win…

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How would you know though, it hasn’t even launched. You’ll get maybe a month until it’s business as usual imo.

Actually you were talking about how RMT ruined WOW for everyone and this is one of the reasons you felt it was necessary for the AH/Mail/Trading to be blocked, when I questioned this and said it didn’t impact me, you said you disagreed, implying it had to impact me somehow.

So since I know it doesn’t really impact me, I asked how is it impacting you? Obviously it won’t have any real impact on your ability to level, especially if you level as you claim to want as SSF. By eliminating leveling as the problem, it really leaves raiding, but if you say raiding isn’t the problem, then exactly what is your argument on how RMT is going too ruin the Official HC server?

No, I said,

You decided to elaborate and speak for me. You’re constantly making assumptions and creating narratives in your posts to support your opinions.

Except that’s not what you said,

You’re sayin it has no impact on me. Not you.
Maybe you need to stop with the novels, be more concise in your posting so you can keep track of what you actually type.

You say “gold buying effects everyone”

I say, “No it doesn’t impact me”

You say “I disagree”

You are saying it will impact me, so how?

The thing is it won’t. If someone chooses to buy gold while leveling it really has little to no impact me and won’t make my journey to 60 any easier or any harder. Also if I choose to raid at 60, it also won’t impact me then, and it never has.

I am curious about all the talk about bots. How do you bot on a HC server? Don’t they die alot?

You don’t know how to flyhack?

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People have made plenty of points you conveniently ignored.

By now you’ve written a book on this thread defending bots lol, why are you so invested?

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Exactly what points have people made? Most of the points either are false claims about the economy will be destroyed, or are simply fear mongering that something will happen most of which is even unlikely on a HC server.

I have also never defended bots, thinking they have limited to no impact is not the same thing as defending them. I simply think it’s very easy to not be impacted by them, most of which is done by being self sufficient, as well as when I want to raid, I join a proper raid guild. So I disagree with the idea of removing valid and key parts of the game to stop something that isn’t really a problem.

Personally I would love for Blizzard to be far more heavy handed and give out far harsher punishments for bots or anyone exploiting the game.

“I farm my own mats, i dont engage with the AH so prices wint affect me”

If you think bots farming relentlessly 24/7 wont hinder your chances of farming nodes, you are fooling yourself.

Also your notion that more people farming will drive prices down is false. The supply is fixed based on respawn timer.

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So if it hasn’t been an issue in Vanilla, Retail, Classic, TBC, or WOTLK, why would it suddenly become a problem on a server where people will die farming mats?

Also even if you buy herbs and stuff, most of them are dead cheap on the AH.

I see you found your way to:

Now activate your Reading Comprehension if you have it instead of looking foolish with your posts all over.

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You’re funny a little chihuahua. And not in a good way…
:popcorn:

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You can chill on the cross-linking spam.
People saw it the first time.