i’d just sell the old parts, my thing is I’d wait for the 7800x3d I think but
i don’t wanna 
Do it… the 5800x3d is 308.99 on amazon + 5% cash back with a prime card
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That’s like 1/2 the price of a 7800X3D.
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Sorry to resurrect this thread but, the 5800x3D is over 50% more $ than the 5700x3D which just came out in Jan 2024. What would the difference in WoW fps from 5700x3D to 5800x3D? I only found 1 benchmark with for the 5800x3D quality 10 gryphon ride with 1% lows at 145fps, average fps like 206 fps. How different would the 5700x3D be? It’s .4ghz slower! I could not find any benchmarks for it for WoW 
Also is the 9950x for sure coming out before Black Friday? When can we expect the 3D version? In 2024 or 2025?
I mean, the 5800X3D is the absolute top CPU you can purchase for the AM4 platform, but cost-wise, the 5700X3D is the better buy; the performance difference between them isn’t super big.
The main thing to ask yourself is how long you plan to run that platform. If you intend to run it for 4-6 more years, you could justify shelling out for the 5800X3D. If you want a better purchase to last longer, it’d likely be worth investing into AM5 for the 7800X3D (or a 9000X3D chip, whenever those finally hit the market). AM5 is intended to be supported a bit longer.
At the very least, the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU right now, especially for WoW with its larger cache. But you’d need to buy a new motherboard and RAM with it to switch platforms (larger investment).
TL;DR: 5700X3D is the better bang for the buck, and the 5800X3D is the strongest gaming CPU you can get if you really want to keep your AM4 system going for some more years.
Otherwise, I’d say it’s better to invest into AM5 if you’re willing to spend the money.
Probably just gonna wait till April for 9800x3d(?) or June for 9600x3D, when and if they are ever expected? If they will even make a 9800x3d this time around? I already bought an am5 mother board and memory, and found a 7950x3d( I stream, photoshop/after effects too) which I bought for $225, but I think it was an ebay scam, because its not shipped yet and I’ve messaged the seller. Will probably just return and rock the 9600x3d in 2025.
A 7950X3D is $531 new right now, so seems a bit too good to be true…
7900X3D is $395, and 7800X3D is $366. Not bad, but like I said, just depends on the upgrade path you want to go down.
5700X3D is $209, and the 5800X3D is $365.
If you’ve already got the AM5, you could grab a 7800/7900X3D and upgrade later, otherwise, the 5700X3D is probably more worthwhile in the interim if you’re staying on AM5 until the 9000X3Ds come along.
Yea, I think I will just stay 5800x. Gaming and streaming at 60fps at 1080p is fine and I will be going to cali for 3 months on an RV trip, so won’t stream, I should be able to pump 144fps there. I do not plan on playing TWW like at all. At least, not until they buff frostbolt to do as much damage as Ice Lance and make Frostfire and Spellslinger stop cleaving. Just gonna go back to real life. Thank you so much for your kind help and knowledge. Really liked learning about AFMF2. I like nvidia broadcast too much out of the box to go AMD tho 
my 5800X3D is struggling with WoW (paired with 4080) and im seeing 15-25 in raids right now… its brutal - if you have a clue what it oculd be, i would appreciate advice
15-25FPS avg or lows? What settings and resolution? Has it always “struggled” or is this something new? Any recent changes to hardware?Does it struggle in other games and benchmarks? How good is your ISP connection to the wow servers during raids?
nah doesnt struggle anywhere else. ive tried every fix/improvement ive found online and now my FPS in raid is probably 45-55 average, with lows in the 20s. Not quite smooth.
I think its literally impossible to get 60+ FPS consistently in Raids with groups > 10 people. Its a Blizz CPU optimization thing at the end of the day. Best hardware wont fix it.
Sounds very strange. Your performance should be much better with a 5800X3D and a 4080. If you have separate settings enabled for battlegrounds and raids, make sure that those settings aren’t cranked up. I personally take it a step further, taking things like shadows all the way down to minimum (blob shadows), because it’s just less distraction when dealing with raid mechanics.
How large is your raid? I do notice a pretty big performance reduction when I’m raiding with 20-25 people as opposed to 10-15. Most of that is just the game engine, but it should still be playable.
If you use Windows 11, upgrading to the latest version (24H2) results in some very nice and free performance gains for Ryzen CPUs, even “older” CPUs like the 5800X3D.
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Try disabling or updating your addons. Example:
ElvUI enemy healthbars would tank my fps, awhile the stock blizzard one didn’t.
Weak aura sometimes breaks too. Every now and then I have to redownload the profile I’m using.
Only time I got sub 30fps was during prepatch event at prime time. Unless these raids are just that much more intense I find it strange that your fps is dipping so low.
This is with a 5700x3d and 7900xtx
Yeah :\ I’ve got Raid settings at like a 3, Essential spells, disabled stuff, etc.
Raid performance is especially bad at 20-25 people, 30 is unplayable, like 12 fps at times
Ive tried no addons and it doesnt make a difference :\
Looks like I am still on Windows 11 version 23H2… how can I update to 24??
EDIT: enrolled in insider program and updating to latest build… fingers crossed!
Allegedly, the branch prediction optimisations got pushed to 23H2, but I don’t know if WoW actually runs better on Windows 11 with AMD CPUs even then.
I’m sticking with Windows 10, since my performance is largely good compared to most of the populace.
Here are some good benchmarks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqEZmjTfuMThe short version is that:
Windows 11 24H2 is the fastest OS for gaming.
Windows 11 23H2 with the new patch is an improvement, but still not as fast as 24H2.
Windows 11 (particularly 24H2) is faster than Windows 10.
Hardware Unboxed stands more towards Windows 10 for gaming post-branch prediction optimizations. lol
There’s also this from prior.
I use Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2021 22H2 (KB5041582).
My specs here: FPS Stability/Performance in Nerub'ar Palace
I forgot to record Sikran, so I only have Mythic: Bloodbound Horror on recording here.
The video you linked is an older video that:
Is running Windows 11 23H2, not 24H2.
Does not include the fix for 23H2 either.
In case you need it spoon-fed to you, this is the exact moment in that old video where he mentions what version he is running:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abXKDUESFKs&t=225sThe video I linked in my prior post is from the same person, with newer results, using both 24H2 and 23H2 with the patch, so I’m not sure what you think you’re proving by linking an older video. For people who turned-off Windows Updates I guess?
Again, this is the link to the new, relevant benchmarks, which includes numbers for Windows 11 23H2 and 24H2, as well as Windows 10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqEZmjTfuMI’ve watched both. If you want semantics, I can argue that WoW isn’t on there, and this is the WoW forum, in which you are advocating for Windows 11, when that was another poster I responded to, and not the OP.
Sure, run through Windows 11, and benchmark it against 10’s last manual update for us to let us know if it’s actually an improvement on Zen 4 for 24H2.
Here you can see a benchmark series where he tested 40+ games on 24H2, and yes, clearly the updates improve performance on Zen 4 also, not just Zen 5. Improvements go all the way back to Zen 3 at least.
https://youtu.be/rlfTHCzBnnQ?t=1017Yeah, I wish that more sites included World of Warcraft benchmarks, but when they test 40+ games and the results are unanimous, I think it’s safe to say that it applies to WoW also…