Yes but now just imagine that those garbage men are probably going to be leaving the garbage there until it’s an issue every single time.
The more things I can take away from them messing up, the better. Even if that means taking out my own trash somewhere else.
Yeah. I don’t think either of us will convince each other of our arguments. I will always think that freedom should come first. Even as the result is something like bots.
And I would still play on a server that allows full trading.
id play anthing bliz gave me
lol
This is quite interesting. If they implemented the addon restrictions, I wouldn’t be playing it.
why not?..abc
How is it a L take when I’m being pretty realistic?
When those players die to lag or to a “griefer” they just get their “lifes” back after an appeal.
Is that hardcore to you? I’m sorry. All the games I’ve played with Hardcore, it was literally 1 life. Some games allowed you to get your items back if someone looted you (e.g. diablo 2), others were everything lost.
If you want to play the hardcore by Kargoz yes, you install the addon and you cheat by resetting your deaths anytime and you adhere by the ruleset.
Unless you stream 100% of your gameplay, that is literally possible to cheat on that addon.
I almost spat my coffee but I get what you mean.
But you see, other players started other HC community here with much less restrictions. Are you going to say they aren’t hc because they don’t follow Kargoz ruleset?
Because, I disagree with the restrictions. I been playing a bit of it on bloodsail, and I flat out ignore the 1 dungeon rule, and just group up and don’t say anything about it. I can also bypass the addon by just turning it off, trading, then turning it back on. I’m not trying to get “verified” so I ignore the rules by disabling the addon when I want to break them.
LOL.
It’s just a game bro 
So why do you need to play it on hardcore?
Everything you requested you can do on a normal server already.
I follow the actual hardcore rule (don’t die), but I need the population to play the game how I want to (dungeon spam). If I don’t have the addon, it won’t let them group with me.
I like the no dungeon spamming too. Dungeons aren’t a good way to level either, just a lazier one tbh.
But yes I see where it is an issue for those that want to. Again the issue with the rules right now is they don’t want players being boosted in dungeons.
For me, it’s just about fun. I once had a level 26 super twink on Nostalrious that I just did deadmines all day over and over. I got almost no exp, needed nothing. But, it’s super fun for me.
I can’t deny that you enjoy that type of gameplay. Unfortunately for you, you’re in a very small group of players that utilize a higher level player in a lower level dungeon for fun.
But, outside the issue of bots, what harm would be without having the addon rules? The people who want the addon rules can install the addon, add more rules they want to follow, or follow just the no death rule.
“How is it a L take when I’m being pretty realistic?”
IF you were being realistic then you would recognize that its half an honor system, and yes while there are probably 1129312312 ways to cheat it, real hardcore players will not cheat it or appeal. and (as someone who plays with the worst wifi known to man) i think you should be able to appeal a lag death if u have solid proof. And no i will not be appealing a lag death.
“are you going to say they aren’t hc because they don’t follow Kargoz ruleset?”
yeah I wouldn’t really recognize them as a HC player or recognize their HC playthrough bc thats like an off shoot of what the vast majority of HC players are doing. kinda like me saying " New HC rules die as many times as u like!" getting to 60 then saying i did a HC run.
It really comes down to the individual. If you cheat to finish ur HC run so be it, you didnt really do a HC run. but for most people they are abiding by the rules to get a HC run finished. again honor system.
Outside of the largest issue?
Even if players still just used the addon the indirect affect of bots would be noticeable.
outside the issue of bots, what harm would be without having the addon rules?
But all the others appealing and get it through?
The dozen of videos showing admins exploiting this appeal death feature?
The ragnaros kill where dead people were in the raid, and killed the boss and posed as 1 life?
I mean, If you want to say that I’ve an L take, at least debunk the facts I’m using to criticize the community, otherwise the L is all yours.
Now that’s an L take.
You’re not the one who defines what HC is, neither are them.
At least in their HC community, you’re allowed to die if it is for lag or griefing.
The vast majority may just be doing it, because there’s no other options.