Even some streamers said that they would like to have less restriction and it would probably happen with the hc server, allowing AH and trading.
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Ill hold any L u want brother. all im saying is if you can spot an exploiter or a cheater, obviously they didnt do a legit HC run. even if they cheated without someone knowing, they themselves know that their HC run was a fake. and you cant say that **all others ** are appealing to get through it. im sure there are plenty of people running the HC playthrough as they should. Kargoz is the only one with a addon and website backed challenge. So for now he basically defines the challenge. You can always cheat. but people who really want the challenge wont cheat. the hardest of hardcore wont even appeal. again ill take any L you say i deserve all im saying is that if you are playing HC 4 real you arent cheating the system, back to the honor system… and for the mass appeals if they are appealing something like a lag spike i get it. anything is kinda wack. and if u get killed by a player ( if thats what u mean by greifing) and try to appeal that, thats wack too. If you wanna play HC you go through the kargoz addon and adhear to the rules u dont cheat.
Boosting dungeons from instances for one.
I don’t see the issue here. If someone wants to cheese their way to victory, more power to them.
Ya I’m sure there are a handful of other examples for things that are somewhat more minor than this. Or atleast ones I’m not thinking about.
I enjoy 1 life game modes and will enjoy it when blizzard releases it. I dont have to explain anything to you its a video game lol.
Oh look more opinions on how others should play. Maybe I like spamming SM to get the gear? Does that remove somemore of the “clout” for you 
If I dont die why shouldn’t I be able to?
Dude is just an elitest who thinks “not trading” gives him clout over others. Move on from this dude hes stuck on an unofficial addon mode.
You have a crush on me too huh?
Already forgot you
You can already play like this, you don’t need an addon or server to do it for you.
But you sound pretty helpless truth be told.
oh no im being bullied 
You have no idea how ironic this is coming from someone playing an unofficial game do you.
Sorry you feel that way.
Not really ironic unless you’re confused about my position, which you are as shown throughout this post.
I’m not. You want a fresh HC realm like many others. I would enjoy it myself.
If I cant group or trade with others though there is no point to me personally. I can play a single player RPG anytime. There are other games with one life modes. I like wow and I hope they come up with something better than your community because some of the rules are dumb imho and dont make sense for an MMORPG.
All you have is “the bots!” for reasoning behind not letting people trade/use the mail/AH because you are worried about the small percentage of people looking to exploit and get your so called “clout”.
Understood that you don’t understand my position.
The only point you’ve made since the start is “trading/ah = bots”
Which I never even disagreed with. I just dont think its enough of a reason to not let people play freely with friends.
Great, so why did you personally attack me first?
Wish I could upvote this multiple times.
I have nothing at all against hardcore gamestyle or most of the players - you’re awesome and go for it.
But people that care more about their views than being true to the self-imposed restrictions is clownplay. They can get rekt.
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If you want trading, AH, grouping outside dungeons just roll on a normal server with your friends and pretend your playing HC.
Dont need a HC server to do that.
I still have not.
Or you can just stop yourself from doing that on a Hardcore server. No one is forcing you to do those things.
If you want to play Solo Self Found, play Solo Self Found.
Everyone else will be playing Hardcore normally.