I liked both of these because it underscores my ambivalence toward the issue.
No, it doesnât. It just adds unnecessary time for me to mindlessly swap between two specs. Nothing about your spec is important or special when respec is available. Either argue for locking people into their spec, or quit lodging this myth out into the world.
You know as well as I do exactly how painful doing certain things in game with the wrong spec can be. Good luck to anyone thinking âoh yeah Iâll just tank Twins with my Arms build this week,â or grinding past R10 without spending 18 hours a day in BGs as prot, but Iâd like to think we can respect each others time.
Youâve chosen to tie them together. I continue to disagree with anyone who says LFD was a poor addition to the game, but that particular argument has absolutely nothing to do with dual spec. LFR, sharding, and prepatch events also have absolutely nothing to do with dual spec. The only thing in common is you bringing them up.
Either way, done feeding this particular troll.
You can absolutely have it!.. When WotLK Classic comes out!
Almost like back then you werenât meant to be spam swapping specs. You always could if you had the gold, but most people didnât feel like spending 50g everytime they wanted to do something else for just a bit. Which is where the choice comes from. If you donât want to spend gold like a madman then you choose the spec you want to focus on. Sounds to me like you have enough gold to spam respec without a care anyway, so if the gold isnât a problem for you then what is? Because if you have infinite gold then dual spec already exists, its called your class trainer.
Its not pure black and white, so no, I donât have to do either of these things. Iâm fine with you changing specs as long as it takes more than pushing a button whenever you feel like it.
Another example of how choosing your spec is meaningful. Do you want to focus on pvp? Then donât spec into something you consider useless for pvp, and vice/versa.
What? Anyone should be able to understand what all of these things have in common. Iâm not making them related, they already are related.
I mean maybe Classic just isnât for you then. LFD ruined server community by just letting you play with randoms from other servers at the push of a button.
It does, because theyâre both about convenience. If you donât understand that at this point then Iâm not sure what to tell you, I honestly donât know how to explain it any simpler.
LFR does, its called convenience, but you donât seem to understand that. I never brought up sharding. I only brought up prepatch because of your comment about âthis is what the majority of the community wantsâ. They also wanted the WotLK and SLs events cut short, essentially ruining them for everyone who enjoyed them, which is why I brought it up. Just because a vocal minority want something doesnât mean its good for the game.
A great way to get your point across. Anyone who disagrees with me even if they present their counter argument with logic is just a troll. 10/10
Problem is, lacking dual spec only interferes with dailies and questing for deep healing specs and prot warriors. I agree about the social aspect, but itâs hard to argue that only five classes/specs should be punished so severely with either a time or gold cost for not grouping.
Adding spellpower to healing gear in 2.4 was actually an acknowledgement that soloing was broken for healers. Itâs possible that will be enough. My T2/AQ priest is rocking 400 spell power in her healing gear.
TBH I havenât even tried to play TBC yet. Iâm consulting and have almost zero free time. I had just moseyed over here to see when 9.1 is dropping⊠got tied up in this discussion because it impacts how Iâll pay my priest so strongly.
Screw that. TBC is good for a reason, if you want dual spec, play another game.
Shadowlands has infinite respecs, theyâre also free. Have you thought about giving it a try?
Reminds me of people who move from one area to another because the area they lived in before became unpleasant to live in, and then they do everything in their power to make their new home the same as their old one.
Yeah I levelled as a protection warrior through Vanilla Classic. Most of the time I couldnât find legit dungeon groups because I was late to the party and started levelling in phase 3 or 4 so it was all boosting services in lfg. I had a choice to make, swap to arms and be unable to tank dungeons optimally, or stay prot and be far slower at questing. That was a meaningful choice to me.
No, dual spec makes tanks more widely available and devalues my capacity to charge people insane amounts of money for tanking services.
Duel spec should definitely be added in my opinion. Especially for healers/tanks.
Having it doesnât devalue the expansion at all. If people donât like it, donât use it? It doesnât really impact TBC experience much or at all. It just improves the gameplay in general. Back when I was in TBC, I wanted this so badly and it made no sense at all on why not to have it. When WOTLK had it, it was just a huge boon that everyone enjoyed.
There shouldnât be a lot of changes to TBCC in general, but changes like this should be allowed. itâs a harmless one.
Then as an âeliteâ player you should have no problem spending the gold to respec⊠bc you know your elite and all that.
This is of course your opinion
obviously, just like every other comment here. Thank you for pointing out the obvious
Game is fun without dual spec? Confirmed!
Bravado always has the best bait.
There are two philosophies at play here: âBring the classâ vs. âBring the playerâ
If youâre advocating for dual-spec, you want to âbring the playerâ and if youâre advocating against it, you want to âbring the classâ and I think thereâs merit to both.
As a raid leader, I want the roles I fill to be âmain specedâ such that they are proficient enough at it to not limit the rest of the raid (not to mention have proper gear for that role). However, as a pug, I just want to be able to jump into groups with my âsecondary specâ if thatâs whatâs being sought right now.
Neither is necessarily wrong, but Vanilla and TBC were most definitely a âbring the classâ experience (they did concede faction-exclusive classes at least), while WotLK and on were a âbring the playerâ philosophy.
Iâm personally in the âkeep it authenticâ crowd and prefer they donât bring in dual-spec as it adds a somewhat interesting sense of choice on leveling and gearing choices (ie, just how much do I want to heal dungeons while still being able to effectively solo quests). However, if they did introduce it, Iâd thumb my nose and get it just because itâs available.
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Iâd love dual spec. Not just the Gold cost issue of respeccing but also to save Hot Bar layouts. Itâs so painful to do any kind of solo play as a Tank or Healer in TBC.
Not to mention the same person that made that poll made a video where he talked about how he thought Dual-Spec would be a good thing so it already had a polling bias. There is something in polls called Acquiescence bias. It basically where people want to appear agreeable and are more likely to vote a certain way if they know what a majority are voting for or the opinion of the person hosting the poll.
People taking the poll are likely to be followers of Willie and thus would be more likely to want to agree with his opinion on the matter.
Iâd like dual spec just to save on gold but there are addons that will save your Hot Bar loadouts.