Imho no, this is the golden time of WoW. If you want to cover two roles, make a character and talent spec that can cover two roles. Feral druid and fury/prot for tank/melee, dreamstate resto and smite priests for ranged/heals, shaman also have multirole specs.
Step off the cookie cutter specs and be creative with what your character can do.
Ref: I rolled a smite dorf for most of classic as my second character, and she was a blast.
He lists pros and cons to Dual Spec. His opinion is that Dual Spec should be massively altered from the WoTLK version. I know itâs easier to just lie about things on the internet but the video isnât that long, people are going to watch it you know.
The poll was up before he even made the video. The poll was at 14k votes and 79% in favor when he posted the video. The number of votes changed by 7,000 and the percentage of people in favor did not.
So the people who responded to the poll are people who know who this content creator is. That means they watch wow creative content, and Iâm guessing this guy makes informative videos fairly regularly.
That makes his audience unrepresentative of the larger playerbase. Youâre not polling people who play world of warcraft classic; youâre polling people who are so involved that they seek videos outside of the game to learn more about the game.
This distinction is important; people who look up videos like this generally (not all, but a disproportionate number) try to follow guides and play âoptimallyâ. They have a higher amount of game knowledge than average (due to watching additional videos) and as a result, they tend to be able to see how different talents improve different situations more easily than someone who doesnât have that game knowledge.
As a result, they are more likely than average to vote for dual spec. Itâs a sampling error- by having no controls on who can answer the poll, by having the way you find out about the poll being following a content creator, you are creating a sample that doesnât properly represent the actual playerbase; instead it represents the more involved playerbase who happens to follow this person.
Proper polls have controls to try and minimize this bias. Without them, the data is⌠not useful, no matter how many people answer. We have a lot of data about what this particular audience wants. But thatâs not data about what the greater whole wants, because the sample is not representative.
Iâm not responding to that wall of bizarre speculation. Every single poll has shown the same thing; the majority of players want Dual Spec.
Damn, I respected you for your work against disinformation on other topics.
I guess everyone is willing to lie for something they care about.
Legitimate reasons,
Itâs a gold sink.
It makes hybrids more valuable.
I want dual spec and I am maining a Paladin.
Hereâs an argument against it, it was not there during the official original launch of the game and 1st expansion, playerâs lived without it and coped surprisingly well, hell people even had funâŚa concept i suspect is completely foreign to the majority of you childish, tantrum throwing retail players, if you canât see it in your own posting in this thread, no help for you.
As it stands your attitude and the attitude of a good chunk of the community on these forums is toxic as all hell and only coming from sad pathetic people who only act this way because they have a kb/m and screen to protect them from what their attitude would garner in the real world.
As evidenced by the number of people crying over GDKPs and mage boosting, apparently not near enough of one to be considered successful.
It makes hybrid specs more attractive because a lot of players dislike having to respec often, sure. But again, this just feels like the whole âwalk uphill 20 miles both waysâ pride kind of reason.
Kudos on both points.
As a Protection Paladin main I disagree with you. My spec is fine.
It devalues player choice. It gives you a much easier way of spec swapping. Choosing your spec should be a meaningful choice, having to just push a button to swap with no other downside does not make my choice in spec feel meaningful.
Iâve never really liked this type of argument. Its the same one people use in favor of the boost and the mount they added into the game.
Sounds like it isnât important enough to be added in then. If its not really impactful then whats the point?
Disagree. It makes my time spent levelling as prot so that Iâd have my weapon skills up to par and have experience playing the spec feel meaningless when someone else can level as ret and then just swap to prot and try to tank.
It makes sense to plenty of people, you just disagree with them.
And in hindsight a lot of people probably wish it had never been added. It helped to water down the specs and helped lead into what retail is today. Everyone loved flying in TBC too, but how many people, especially WPvP players, wish it had never been added at all?
I enjoy solo play on my prot paladin. I think its fun seeing how many mobs I can pull and not die.
Never said a spec was not fine.
Not really, it is givign the player two choices out of three specs to play in different scenarios. There is no real devalue here. There is a Gain however.
You donât llike it because you know is true, period.
Whats the point of not adding it? Since you are clearly agreeing on how low of impact it has.
Perfect. Thatâs why player choice is still active! Stay as prot and donât duel spec out of it? This argument does not justify not having duel wield. And its not meaningless at all, having two specs will require that person to farm gear for both specs. They canât just simply swap out whenever they want. They will have to build the gear for both specs for the appropriate scenario.
just like this makes sense to a ton of other people to have it, while you disagree as wellâŚ
That is not whatt lead to Waterdown specs. This is grossly inaccurate.
Waterdown spec is just poor management at is finest. Having two devs working in Shadowlands on all class design for both PVP and PVE is ludicrious. Especially with all the money they have. They should of hired more people and delayed the game further. This is just a management issue. Duel spec did nothing to cause this. All it did was enhance player experience.
would be a lot more tanks available for groups if we had dual spec.
just sayin
Please do, as a matter of fact, I want more healers to go do this as well so I can begin charging to heal dungeons for pugs.
Another shenanigan supported by the top 1% gold owners to keep the average player down because of âno changeâ. And this even when itâs to the detriment of everyoneâs gameplay. Because you somehow think that being locked into a spec creates identity?
Let us know how great it feels when that empty spot in your group wonât fill. 
Oh yeah! No changes boys! This is great! 
Bartender will save hotbar layouts. For healing spells mouseover macros will save spots for spells or talents you unlearn and relearn as you swap specs.
Prot pallies are fine. They are one of the best grinding classes in the game. Healers and prot warriors are the ones who need it.
I disagree with dual spec being what watered down the specs. What watered them down was players crying for each otherâs abilities. Everyone âneededâ an interrupt, everyone âneededâ a stun, all healers âneededâ similar spells, everyone âneededâ an AoE⌠the list goes on and on. Blizzard obliged and homogenized classes to the detriment of the game.
My original 60 for classic was a prot warrior and I still disagree. I made the choice to level as prot, it made me more desirable when I ran dungeons. Such was the payoff. I could have tanked dungeons as arms, but its smoother if done as prot, so Iâm more desirable. Thats the payoff.
So instead I need to be able to heal at a moments notice, or dps, or tank, at the press of a button. Think about this from the perspective of a paladin or even a druid. Now you can do dps, tank, or heal optimally at any point by pressing a button. Not to mention running dungeons and needing on every piece of gear your character could possibly use for any spec. Sorry mage, I know Iâm a ret pally but I need that cloth chest for when I want to heal later. Sorry warrior tank, I need that defense shield for when I want to tank later. Etc.
I get enough crap from healers when I roll need on int gear as prot paladin. Sorry healers/caster dps, spellpower is huge for prot paladin. Now imagine every class that has multiple roles doing that. No thank you.
Thatâs why you act like a decent person and only roll need on the spec that you are currently using. So if you are prot currently, need for that gear. if you are DPS currently, need for that, ETC.
If a gear piece drops for your OFF SPEC, ask the team if they need it and if you can need as well. If they say no or they need it, then just greed it or pass. Why do you have to go around and act like a greedy player? You should only care about your main spec getting geared up first. Offspec can be geared up in time.
Even currently, i always ask my fellow casters if i can need on an item, even if i am the only healer. And if they really want it, i would pass for them. ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
Honestly, its like the same excuse people use in regards to the social aspect of the game on live. Classic wonât fix your antisocial and your âMe first, others secondâ attitude. thatâs a you issue.
I mained a druid in TBC and WotLK. Having dual spec didnât turn me into a loot ninja. If I was running a dungeon for an offspec feral piece and healing, Iâd ask in advance. Sometimes a DPS would object and Iâd move on to another group.
In a single-server community in the real TBC, eventually loot ninjas ended up unguilded and on everyoneâs ignore lists. They usually had to server transfer to play. There was some of this in Classic so Iâm hopeful ignoring ninjas will continue to work in TBC Classic.
In raids if your raid isnât doing mainspec > offspec, youâre not going to get very far.
The problem is you arenât the majority in this situation. The number of times my DK back in Wrath had holy Paladin, Prot Paladin, Prot Warrior take those God forsaken boots from me in Halls of Reflection was easily 15 cases to your 1 good deed. And this wasnât isolated to just my DK. Hunter having gear swiped by the resto shaman, etc. While I have never used loot ninja as a reason to not have DS introduced yet, there is a reason daddy Blizzard intervened on the looting system. Dual Spec and LFG tool just brought out the greed in people.