I wanted to see if anyone else had experienced this and tried before wasting my time.
Yes, I am bullying you by providing reasonable, correct, applicable advice. Report me for harassment, I guess.
When people disagree with you, or offer a point of view not in line with yours, or offer ideas you may not have ever considered or even thought of, it doesn’t mean they’re bullying you.
Then that’s all you needed to say instead of the constant back and forth. The answer is actually quite simple: Blizzard will not investigate this because there wasn’t an actual account action.
Now, can those who send in frivolous reports get actioned? Yes, they can. I’m sure it’s happened before, but we simply have no right to know what action Blizzard took on anyone’s account other than our own. End of story.
I wasn’t going to reply, again, but there’s just too much misinformation going around. Blizzard’s opinion is the only one that matters. The End.
I highly suggest everyone walk away and just let the thread go. The OP got their answer.
Good thing that players can’t punish other players. Punishment is indeed only in the hands of Blizzard. No player can action an account, they can simply report.
But it was in the game for years while it was easy to report people, it only became an issue after the YouTube video. It had been in place for years along with the right click report system for years before that. It has nothing to do with how easy it is to report, it simply wasn’t an issue because no one knew it was there and no one had a reason to throw it out as an excuse if they got actioned.
He lied about the entire reporting system actioning an account automatically by misrepresenting what actually happened to him. He even tried to say that his suspension was because of automation from those reporting him. The whole thing was one big lie. He was squelched for an excessive amount of reports, it was overturned once a GM looked into (as happens with all squelches) an then he was punished for abusing the system.
People in school didn’t like that I was different than them. They wanted me to be the same as all of them, so I was bullied for it. I was doing things they didn’t like. Things that weren’t against the rules. They made fun of me, physically hurt me, etc all because I didn’t do as they wanted. Again, this is just another form of that, cyber bullying. If I’m not doing anything wrong to Blizzard, they should be unable to punish me, plain and simple. “Squelching” should not be automated. Or at least it should do far less than it currently does if Blizzard wants it to be automated.
And, once again, Blizzard is NOT punishing you. If you violated no rules, then no action was taken by Blizzard. Your realm mates, however, are telling you to cut out what they consider spam and squelching you, or in your own words, ignoring you temporarily and blacklisting you for the duration until Blizzard views the squelch and sees if you violated any rules and removes the squelch or actions your account.
This is all.
Guys, it might be time to let this one go. The OP has made it clear in their opinion, that they want a straightforward number for what spam is. We all know that’s not going to happen.
This back-and-forth is really unnecessary. The OP believes that this is targeted. If threads like this have taught us anything, it’s that these situations are almost never targeted (thanks to unique accounts having to make reports).
The OP isn’t going to change their mind on what they think or how they feel.
If they wish to see something changed, the General forums or perhaps the in-game suggestion feature would be best suited.
Before this thread gets deleted does anyone know how I’d go about opening a ticket if I decide to do so. Navigating the in-game system just leads me to a message saying to make sure I’m obeying the CoC, and “spam” as I’ve stated before is not possible to obey because of how the definition of what spam is changes from person to person.
There wouldn’t be a specific category for this, as there’s nothing to investigate. All a ticket like this would do is add to an already inflated ticket queue.
Again, while this is true for the general public; Blizzard is the final arbiter when it comes to enforcing their rules.
I’m sorry you’re going through this, but there’s really nothing to be done right now except maybe change up how you’re posting your ad.
Specifically for being reported for spam? You wouldn’t. GMs would watch for patterns if they applied an account action (warnings are not account actions as far as Blizzard is concerned). Without the account action, they have no logs to look at.
Alright. Guess theres not really anything I can do then except hope I don’t get squelched even though I’m following the rules to the best of my ability. Thank you.
Proof?
It wasn’t there when you had to open a ticket to report chat violations and cheating. It was there when right-click report was added to the game.
Content providers like those have a reason for posting misinformation and half-truths. They have a financial gain to make from getting others to watch their content. They get free advertising when they are mentioned. A good reason to not name them.
Spam is determined by the number of reports Blizzard receives from other players. It is unlikely that the magic number of 10 reports that you are fond of is enough to classify something as spam and result in account action. 10 players, even the 250 you have had as customers, is unlikely enough to have something classified as spam.
It was easy to report when squelch was added to the game. It affected players enough to warrant two (2) threads on it, years apart. The content providers are to blame for it being weaponized (if it actually is). They demonstrated how easy it is to report chat and that something happens when they do.
Doesn’t make him right. Look at all the publicity and views he gets from it. That’s money in the bank for him.
Not. You don’t know who is reporting you. You have no way of knowing who is reporting you. If someone messages you to say they reported you, report them for spam.
It has nothing to do with if they care or not. It has to do with the fact that it isn’t their job to investigate who reported you.
I’m over 50. I was treated like that since grade 1. It continued after I graduated from high school. It continued after I graduated from college. I have PTSD from it. It still affects my life. I’ve seen the warning once myself. I never thought of it as bullying.
It’s there to let players stop gold-sellers until Blizzard can investigate. It is unfortunate that some players think it’s funny to try and get it to apply to others. If they have it do less than what it currently does it does not stop the gold sellers from advertising.
I’m not gonna take the time to reply to each and everyone one of these, just want to clarify a few quick things.
I don’t think 10 people is enough to report me for spam, 10 to 30 is roughly the amount of reports needed to initiate a squelch. From what I’ve seen it could be determined by how quickly the reports come in as well. Meaning if 10 people report you quickly it could happen, or if 30 do over an hour it could happen. Blizzard can’t and shouldn’t reveal exactly how it works or else it could, and most likely would, be abused. More so than it is already.
I don’t think of the warning as bullying. Its the idea that people who don’t like me posting my professions in trade chat, even though Blizzard has made it clear that this channel is where I am supposed to post such things, can use the report function in an attempt to get me squelched and negatively affect my gameplay. This is what I consider bullying. I understand that my posts may be viewed by them as me making their gameplay experience worse, to which I say don’t report me, ignore me and move on. I’m not breaking the rules, you have nothing to report me for aside from spam and that isn’t even properly defined anywhere. Even this thread can’t agree on whats spam and what isn’t.
And lastly gold sellers are already not stopped by this. You report one, and then in 3 minutes its been replace by another. On Proudmoore they’re all level 1 human warriors. For all I know its the same person just creating new characters/accounts everytime it gets squelched. It may not even be an actual person, its probably just a program. The gold sellers make enough money to afford being able to do this.
I don’t know about y’all but i think the thread has ran it’s course long ago.
The OP is clearly now just being purposely obstant.
I’m obstinate that I’ve done nothing wrong and just don’t want to be squelched. Thats all really.
Blizzard has never, and will not, confirm the number of reports or the threshold required for either a spam report or a squelch. Any number is completely a guess really. The only thing we know is that the reports have to come from unique battle.net accounts.
Stopped, no. Significantly hindered, yes. A squelch, as you know, prevents chat and is battle.net wide. It forces the illicit gold sellers to move to a different stolen account.
It also helps Blizzard to identify accounts that have been hacked so that they can lock them until the account holder can regain control.
As I mentioned before, based on posts here in CS, this is pretty much never the case. It’s almost always unique accounts from unique players.
I honestly don’t care if you’ve came here to argue that Bo peep never actually lost her sheep.
You were giving the fact’s believe them disbelieve them it matters not.
They have thousands. Like I said, report one level 1 human warrior advertising a website, in 2 or 3 minutes theres another with the exact same message copied word for word. I wouldn’t consider a 2 to 3 minute delay in posting a significant hindrance.
I’m saying its the same person who has hacked accounts. I guess its more accurate to say its all the same entity though because they advertise the same website. I see it roughly every 5 mins I’m in a city, and I report them every time I see them. Nothing has changed.
I’ve been given the fact that spam has no given definition and that no one can agree what is and is not spam.
Only Blizzard can, and they don’t make it publicly clear, which is just frustrating. I just want to know if selling my items once every 10+ minutes is spam or not.