It very much sucks, because so many I know will not run group content for fear of these bans now. Speaking in chat is not much of an issue in Retail. That is easily avoided. But it does cut down on the social aspect, due to fear. I wish the squelch and kick was in place instead of automatic bans. But you are correct, there is nothing we can do.
What I’m talking about has zero to do with emotion. I’m talking about Asmondouche asking people to submit false reports on him for saying “I love Blizzard” that’s absolutely abusing the report system. But it’s about I’ve come to expect from him.
On that I agree 100%.
Did you know if you AFK in a battle ground you don’t even have to be reported to be kicked?
Or if the group finds you AFKing in the grave yard…
Point is, don’t AFK in group content and you won’t have this problem.
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The issue is that people who are not AFK are being reported and banned, simply because they are trying to help elsewhere and not with the masses in AV.
We’ve been speaking out about not liking it since they put it in. Unfortunately it falls on deaf ears. Putting automod in was a business decision.
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Also this like seriously if you join group content and go afk don’t complain when people get rightfully mad at you for wasting their time
GMs literally look at all of them.
There are two stages when it comes to reports. There is the squelch, and there is the silence. By raw function they both do the same thing, which means that a squelched/silenced player cannot:
- Talk in Instance Chat (Raid, Party, and Battlegrounds)
- Talk in global channels that are auto joined (such as General or Trade)
- Create Calendar Invites/Events
- Send in-game mail
- Send Party Invitations
- Send War Game Invitations
- Send Invitations to Duel
- Update a Premade Group Listing
- Create a New List for a Premade Group
But here is the difference. The squelch is automated while a silence is manually applied. What happens is that people will report a player for something, be it language, being afk in a battleground etc. When enough reports are received the account will be squelched to minimize any potential damage the account may cause. Then it will be flagged for GM review.
A GM will then address the squelch (usually within 24 hours of the squelch being applied) and if they find that the squelch was unfairly applied and that the user of the account did not break any rules, the squelch will be removed and they’ll be able to play as normal. If however there were rules broken, then Blizzard may choose to apply a silence (depending on severity, sometimes they’ll skip the silence and go straight to suspension or full ban).
If your account is actually silenced, you can attempt an appeal, but if the ruling stands, future silences will last longer and eventually may result in suspensions or bans.
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But that’s still subjective and something Blizzard absolutely cannot police. You cannot tell if a report is legit or not. There’s just no way unless you’re a mind reader, which no one on planet earth is.
Also, you’re mad at Asmongold for proving the system is automated after Blizzard basically gaslighted us that it wasn’t ?
You’re mad at the guy who proved Blizzard to be liars ?
See, this is the kind of subjective emotional outburst I’m talking about. You’re mad at the guy, and honestly, I think you don’t even know why. He did nothing wrong in this instance and he did the community quite the service in exposing Blizzard’s deceit.
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“Hey Greg, this bob guy got 52 reports”
“Wow, 52 hey”
“Yep, he’s so silenced”
“What did he say”
“52 reports Greg, who cares”
Silence is Silence. Squelch thing was never true.
You get the e-mail, it says Silence. It’s all the same function restrictions as a silence. If you don’t appeal it, you take the full penalty and it sticks to your file. No GM reviewed the reports to apply it, it was automatically applied by the system.
We know it now. It’s been proven so often, it’s a wonder you guys keep gaslighting about the stupid squelched thing.
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They look into them after days waiting for a ticket response, meanwhile you’re silenced in those days and unable to chat and mail. However, even when they look into them, sometimes the GM’s don’t really put an effort like you claim.
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A week later after someone is on a one month ban for a first offense that was not even an offense.
Not any longer. This has been proven false now. Things have changed immensely.
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There likely aren’t enough of them to handle every request. Automod was a cost saving measure from the top.
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Firstly, discussing account actions is not allowed on the forums, and secondly, it’s for your “friend” to appeal an action.
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And this forum post was flagged, that’s all you need as proof that people report for the dumbest things. People are overly sensitive.
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A better cost saving measure would have been a better ignore function.
“Oh you read something you didn’t like, use ignore” means no drama, no PR backlash, no GMs replying to appeals.
It’s the cheapest option. Account wide ignore. Boom, leave Blizzard out of it, police your own chat.
That was never a mystery. It’s why the system sucks. Unfortunately it won’t change. They likely won’t hire more people to handle these situations and get rid of automod.
You are unfortunately yelling into the void here.
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Again.
A squelch is automatically applied, a silence is manually applied by a GM. This is how the system has literally always worked since inception.
If your friend’s account was silenced, that means that a GM reviewed the squelch and determined that he broke the rules. This is why when you get squelched, you’ll be told that the account action is ‘pending GM review’.
This has been addressed on the customer support forums multiple times:
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People would still report. They’d just both report and ignore.
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Nothing that you said is true. The GM’s literally do not always review. You’re just copy pasting like a teachers pet.
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And off to the dust bin of /dev/null it would go. 0$.
They’re both silences. The automated e-mail that’s sent out calls it a Silence.
Stop gaslighting people.