It means there are alot of people who quit playing unless it goes progressive! Plus the majority of users especially for Chinses wont do this either. So it must be progressive.
I donât agree with excluding people if they havenât done the absolute endgame, but Iâve cleared Naxx and I work full time and play more casually right now. Thereâs no real need to constantly play if youâre just doing Naxx if you have enough gold for the consumes and tier upgrades.
The argument that I assume heâs talking from is excluding fair weather players who have no real investment in their characters, and instead in one particular survey asking the absolutely invested players what they would want.
Even without said survey though, itâs clear most players want progression,.
I donât have those numbers, do you? IK you might quit, if things donât go your way. I donât like making up numbers and assuming just because a few agree with me, that that means weâre the âmajorityâ. Also, what does China have to do with anything?
Based on the surveys, itâs likely forced fresh is the least popular option.
I donât consider any of the surveys to be reflective of the WoW Community, as a whole. I, certainly, havenât taken a part of any of these Surveys, and Iâve been playing this game for 15 years. Who are these participants, in these surveys?
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Those most unlikely to reply or notice it would be casual fair weather players, and those are extremely unlikely to want to stay in Classic.
Itâs a randomly assigned group of players. Thereâs no rhyme or reason about it. Just because you or I havenât received one doesnât mean itâs not diverse.
Doesnât mean that it is, either. Itâs not reflective of EVERYBODY. Theyâre not accurate.
Despite what those surveys say, IDC either way if Blizz wants to progress or fresh BC. As long as thereâs still Classic Servers around.
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Itâs grasping at straws to argue that survey results that Blizzard has undertaken are meaningless and donât have any indication on the general, rough interest of the playerbase.
Who knows if there will be? Most likely, thereâll be a few determined to stay in Classic, and those who donât want to progress can transfer there.
I didnât say meaningless. I said not accurate. However, I will claim that I didnât need to partake in any Poll in letting Blizz know that I sought for Classic. I was around, when they were deleting topics even talking about Legacy Servers. And then, they finally caved and gave ONE topic to discuss Legacy Servers. I was sure to have my voice heard in that ONE single topic.
Cool. Even if you donât think itâs accurate, it doesnât matter if Blizzard does. And they likely do.
I think they base their decisions off of MORE things than just Polls and Surveys 
Iâm sure they take into account discussions on the Forums, Twitter, YouTube, their Blizzcons, etc.
Theyâll base it off of what is easiest, and most likely profitable. Which, coincidentally, is progressing existing servers and offering transfers to Classic only servers.
The problem with this is I find both BC and Classic to be two separate games. And, why progressing the already made Classic Servers into BC but leaving the ânewâ Classic Servers as âfreshâ (with the option to transfer BC Characters onto Classic) is worse. âFreshâ BC makes more sense. But, I have a different approach, which Iâve expressed, numerously:
I have no interest in preserving classic when TBC comes out.
There is almost certainly no way the current servers will have enough population to stay even remotely populated once TBC hits if they either copy everyone into TBC or force them to transfer off. Thatâs why itâs more like there will be several target Classic locked servers, so they can play together.
Itâd take a lot more effort to transfer everyone to a TBC realm, or have to transfer each personâs account (or select characters), than it would to allow people to move to a Classic only realm.
I really donât care about popularity. Why do Classic Only Players have to start over but not BCers? That makes no sense!
We can work on combining Classic Servers, later. Weâre talking about implementing BC.
My suggestion isnât that difficult to implement. We can fix the population issue AFTER implementing BC. Your suggestion is a lot more work than what Iâm suggesting.
Because there are a lot more than we could imagine that how many people are there in China. They want to keep their cha as in a progressive way, which i also want. The more people require the more likely Blizzard does listen to what they want , which has to do with their way to manage. The progressive is the option that is never ruled out. I did make my own effort on my characters and i do not want to lose any of those with stuff earned. What i did make is mine and i will keep this.
A well constructed survey is extremely accurate. Blizzard has all the data they need to create a representative sample. Your claim that itâs not accurate just means you donât know much about statistical analysis.
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I understand what youâre saying, and I wouldnât want this either, for Classic. You didnât put any work into BC. You put work into Classic. Theyâre two different games.
I agree but where is this âwell constructed surveyâ? Blizz had one (by them and not by third parties), but I didnât even get the chance to participate in it. It wasnât even up for long. Itâs not reflective of EVERYONE.
Iâm sure they do. NOT just because of Polls and Surveys, though. There are other forms of finding out what people want. Such as these discussions, here on these forums. Behind the scenes Tickets (itâs ludicrous to think this doesnât happen). E-Mails, Twitter, Discussions on YouTube, etc.
Sorry, you havenât convinced me that they are just because you began talking about me, as a character. Try again.
Theyâre not. TBC is an expansion to Classic without any significant overhauls.
They canât survey every single account. The fact you think they have to in order to get a sufficient sample size is silly, and there wasnât just one survey.
You can keep arguing all you want, but the way they handled it was the best way to feasibly do it without forcing all of us to do the survey at log in.
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