Forum changes - do we need a forum wipe?

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

@Cäpslöck-proudmoore

If a post only gets flagged by 1 user, you (as another non-mod user) have no way of telling that, and it still goes into the moderation queue to be looked at.

it wasnt a singlular post, it was on a topic where people tried to tell blizz
something was wrong and they did a mass prune over it. im sure mods
shadow delete all the time and just dont watch the forums when a call comes in.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

I get that you’ve decided what reality you wish to live in, and no amount of information about how things actually work will change that.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

i mean… i was actually there when it happened. so why are you talking to
me as if i wasn’t there when they poofed all the posts?
you always wanna argue with me and be condescending lol.
just dont talk to me if ur gonna do all that please and ty.

[Teufelgott-shadowsong (Teufelgott)]

@Fairlight-emerald-dream

do we know that blizzard will remove posts without them being flagged?

No, it wouldn’t be practical for Blizzard to actively monitor the forums. They rely on players to flag topics and posts that don’t adhere to the Code of Conduct.

[Teufelgott-shadowsong (Teufelgott)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

just dont talk to me if ur gonna do all that please and ty.

That ‘just ignore me’ schtick works both ways. If you don’t like the way someone interacts with you, you have the power to stop it yourself.

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

i saw no flags
so they do a clean up w/o a notice as well.

You only see your own flags. You won’t know anybody else has flagged a post unless and until it is buried.

[Fairlight-emerald-dream]

see this was my understanding, otherwise I can’t really see why blizzard would have provided users with the means to flag a post if blizzard was already going to do that without intervention/assistance from the community. but i have (had?) nothing to go on besides my intuition as to how a system like this really functions behind the scenes.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

@Teufelgott-shadowsong

You only see your own flags. YOu won’t know anybody else has flagged a post unless and until it is buried.

so the topic i was in when all the post got removed w/o any notifs meant what?

[Fairlight-emerald-dream]

it sounds like it could mean that one flag doesn’t hide the post, but one flag is all that’s required to ‘ping’ mods to check the post and validate it’s compliance - or lack thereof - with the CoC

[Teufelgott-shadowsong (Teufelgott)]

Common sense says that the removed posts had been flagged, but not so much that they were buried prior to removal.

Another possibility (and knowing Vrak, it’s likely, even), so many posts were flagged that he just scrolled through removing anything he saw, whether it was flagged or not, that was worthy of deletion.

Understand, though, that Vrakthris isn’t a moderator, he’s a support forum agent. Moderating outside of the support forums isn’t in his job description. That he did was largely because certain people kept going to the CS forum to complain.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

well my point was there was no notifications.
if 1 report = 1 delete, the user should know why it was removed.
im under the impression 1 report does nothing lol.

and the 2nd possibility i literally just said,

@Teufelgott-shadowsong

whether it was flagged or not, that was worthy of deletion.

so yes, some posts get shadow deleted. ty for reconfirming it at least…
they just went down the line and removed it and idk if vrak did it, it was on classic forums
he didnt even post on it. just kinda rude to tell someone its “in ur head” when it wasnt.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

if 1 report = 1 delete, the user should know why it was removed.

Good, then nothing need change.

[Teufelgott-shadowsong (Teufelgott)]

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

well my point was there was no notifications.

And there wouldn’t be, unless a penalty was applied. If you had a non-constructive post removed because a moderator happened to see it, and it didn’t otherwise fall afoul of the CoC.

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

im under the impression 1 report does nothing lol.

You are free to believe whatever you like. Just because you believe a thing doesn’t make it true, though.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

so to clarify, the mods can delete posts even if no one reported it?

[Teufelgott-shadowsong (Teufelgott)]

Why would you think they couldn’t? Isn’t it their job to remove posts that are counter to the CoC? Did you believe that a post needed to be flagged before they could remove it?

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

@Fairlight-emerald-dream

do we know that blizzard will remove posts without them being flagged?

@Moondoggíe-faerlina

they do. in my experience when wrath classic rdf was broken and blizz
tried to gaslit us about it, a whole bunch of posts vanished. i saw no flags
so they do a clean up w/o a notice as well.

then was told that doesnt happen so

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Fairlight-emerald-dream

do we know that blizzard will remove posts without them being flagged?

[CS LOUNGE] Hoppity Hippity

They were posts responding to other posts that were removed earlier. I was just cleaning up the ghost comments, Darthwraith, since without what you were replying to, they don’t make a lot of sense, and it looks like you are talking to yourself.

[Kaïne-pagle]

Blizzard does remove posts without anyone reporting it, could be for any reason. If you report someone 1-2 times, they do not get a mod notice, no one knows if you were fully reported until the 3rd report. The only time they’ll cut posts if it’s in a Blue made topic and it gets messy and they clean up instead of locking their own topic. No, you do not have to reported and/or flagged for your post to be removed. Yes, mods do scan the forums without waiting for reports. It’s pulling teeth to get proper responses here because some here have to be right even when they are dead wrong.

[Jaesears-dalaran]

@Jaesears-dalaran

Forum changes Vongola#1794 is requesting:

Account wide ignores so we can ignore one time instead of 30.

• Someone who is ignored should not be able to see our profile.
• Someone who is ignored should not be able to reply to us.
• We shouldn’t be notified when someone who is ignored replies to us.

Battle Tags or Usernames so people can’t switch to a different character pretending to be a different person.

• Let us choose a username or use our BTag to tie all of our characters to our account.
• Trust level is now account wide but is taken back down to 0 if you get banned.
• We can still change characters, but our btag/username will show underneath the character.

Forum themes so we can customize our viewing experience.

• A simple little drop down at the bottom of the page to let us change the color or choose a theme from various expansions.

A friend’s list so we can easily connect with people.

• Adding DMs lets us make friends without having to add them in game or on discord.
• Privacy settings lets us choose to block all requests/messages or let anyone send us a request/message.

A taco tuesday thread that opens up on tuesday.

• People are free to discuss tacos, share recipes and post pictures of tacos but only on tuesday.
• Every other day, the thread is locked.

Dislikes so people can show they don’t support a post without flagging it.

• In my experience, some people use the flagging system as a dislike system. Adding dislikes can help solve this.

Unlimited likes to help spread positivity and encouragement!

• The fact that we run out of likes is a problem because people end up spamming just to say they agree because they can’t like.
• There’s no downside, in my opinion, for unlimited likes.

Allow cussing because we are all adults and this game isn’t for kids.

• I personally see nothing wrong with cussing so long as it’s not aimed at another person.
• I’ve seen posts with important messages be removed just because of ONE cussword.
• 99% of this community are adults and this game is rated T for Teen. Teens tend to cuss more than adults do.
• Let the sailors be free.

Trust levels displayed under our character portrait.

• If you add a progress bar (like a level bar), people won’t bother the mods so much about asking if they are close to level 3 c:
• Each level could get their own little emoji or symbol to represent that level.
• Tier three could also get more benefits like setting their own title to appear beside their trust level.

Armory update button so we can force the system to update our mogs.

• Currently, the system is very finicky. For some, it takes weeks to update while others can get it to update multiple times in one day.
• Places like PSN Profiles has an update button that tells the system to pull the latest information. Something like this would be cool for the armory.
• A restriction would be needed to keep things from getting overwhelmed. Once an hour seems fine.

Thanks for coming to my taco talk

Daily support for all of the account wide things.

#FreetheBattleTags

[Teufelgott-shadowsong (Teufelgott)]

@Kaïne-pagle

some here have to be right even when they are dead wrong.

Is this projection? This feels like projection.

[Moondoggíe-faerlina]

idk i was there when it happened so idk what that whole crap was abt lol
i just wanted a clarifcation but i think we all meant the same thing?
one does get tired of the aggression here from the same folks lol