Allow me to clear that up for you. It seems that you misinterpreted what I was trying to say.
When I said that “We shall see”, I did not mean that I believed that the player imposed punishment would be retained for Classic. I was trying to say that “IF the player imposed punishment was retained, we would see if I am correct and it is abused or if you are correct and it is not abused.”
I even noted later that it remains to be seen whether the player imposed punishment will be retained for Classic.
Allow me to quote myself:
I guess you had to ignore that because it doesn’t mesh with your desire to redeem yourself in your own eyes by making it appear that I was wrong.
You were wrong, as usual. You said words, own them. Just make another Fesz Fiction apology, like you’ve had to do numerous times in the past because you refuse to fact check and you post quantity over quality.
This feature will go forward, as it’s a crucial part of their operations.
Marcus Maczynski: The Right-Click-Reporting features are crucial to us. There is a temporary “squelch” that it does to try and prevent in-game situations from escalating further, but it also does more than that. It provides us with all of the information we need to investigate these reports.
You may not care about “a group of players trying to teach a lesson”, but they will likely exist. Their existence and the abuse they likely will perpetrate do not depend upon whether or not you care about them. Your lack of caring about them will not undo the damage they do.
Although, you might start to care about them if you have the unfortunate luck to be their target. As I said, you don’t even have to say anything in any chat. You could become their target for simply winning a roll for a piece of loot in a dungeon.
I suspect that IF the player imposed punishment system if retained for Classic, it will affect far more players than you apparently believe.
IF the player imposed punishment is retained in Classic, we shall see the extent to which it will be abused. We will see the extent to which players will go to “get revenge” upon those they feel wronged them or to gain any advantage, no matter how minor.
It appears that I was right. You apparently have a personal vendetta against me and feel some need to redeem yourself in your own eyes, since I have repeatedly proven you wrong.
Blizzard won’t change their integral, crucial system because Fesz Fiction stories are just an attempt at fear mongering to gather support to change that system. It seems Fesz wants Gold Selling spam to become prevalent again. Is there a financial reason, perhaps?
If you want to redefine Blacklist to be synonymous with the ignore list in World of Warcraft, that is your prerogative but please don’t try to force us to use your Fesz Fiction definitions.
BTW, that statement you linked was made over 6 years ago and was made in reference to a different game with a different environment.
Blizzard could easily change the player imposed punishment portion of the right click report system, while leaving the majority of the system, including the "all of the information necessary to investigate those reports, the same.
Whether they will adjust the system to be more conducive to the Classic environment or leave it exactly as it is remains to be seen.
No. It’s really not. If they wanted it to be a real punishment while they reviewed. You wouldn’t even be able to log in. It does not stop you from grouping in classic. It does not stop you from questing. It does not hinder you from combat functions.
We also do not know all of the details pertaining to classic and what we do know is based off live.
What we also know is you guys have ran this right back around to “We want no repercussions from what we say in chat”.
I do not believe that I ever claimed that a public blacklist was the same as a personal blacklist or that a public blacklist was the same as the ignore system. If I did, please provide that quote.
I simply pointed out that an individual IS the authority when it comes to their own personal blacklist.
It prevents a player from accessing all the features in the game. That IS a punishment, IMO. Even many, if not most, of those who want the player imposed punishment retained for classic admit that a squelch is a punishment.
How does “players who violate the rules should be reported and action should be taken against those violators” equate to “we want no repercussions from what we say in chat”?
Since I apparently need to post this now for every single new person coming into this thread (not your fault, given the size of this thread at this point, but still a bit annoying):
The system falls apart when given a real world vanilla situation. See below:
Innocent player would now be getting squelched (repeatedly) for doing nothing wrong in game using the modern system, because some randoms where either triggered by the in game action and seeking “revenge”, or simply didn’t know if Boom’s actions where indeed against the “code of conduct”. The system would be getting abused to punish the player, and zero bans would go out over the abuse because there’s no way to prove the players intent when filing a report.
The schills (4 of which are known forum trolls in Aehl, Padre, Gnocci, and Ziryus) keep ignoring that this system can, will, and does impact rule abiding players, while also ignoring that it can, and will impact people in a much more drastic fashion than the system does on the retail game because of the vanilla era reliance on communication to be able to group. A squelch in Classic is not the same thing as a squelch on retail.
As I have said, it remains to be seen whether the player imposed punishment will be retained for Classic, and if it is retained for Classic, whether the system will be adjusted to be more conducive with the Classic environment.
So does not having the latest expansion. Is that a punishment? So does not paying the sub. Iol.
None of the major features. You can still quest. You can still level and you can still perform combat.
You can even still get in groups. All you can’t do is speak in public channels. That may cause you to alter how you play but it doesn’t stop you from playing.
Yea and like I said last time. There are many locked up in jail as we speak who wish they were only detained and let go instead of actually punished.
Face it. That is the main group this effects and you know it. As one poster just pointed out this is not going to affect Joeschmoe normal guy playing the game. It affects those who would either abuse the system or those who have to be edgy in chat. The rest of us won’t even notice this. Fact.
The great thing about all of this is that this feature is going to go forward. They’re not going to change a core part of their report system because a particular person in this thread doesn’t want to be squelched for Gold Selling.
It remains to be seen whether they will adjust or remove the player imposed punishment portion of the system to be more conducive the Classic environment.
No one, other than Blizzard, can say for certain whether the system will be adjusted to be more conducive with the Classic environment or remain exactly as it is in BFA.