False reporting and automated ban

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I agree that players that violate the rules, including chat rules, should be reported.

What makes you think that those 5 people are reporting a “random person” that committed no violation? What makes you think that those 5 people are not coordinating to target a specific and non random person? What makes you think that 5 people submitting reports are “random” players with no prior connection?

The system is being more than a little abused in RBG’s. The abuse not being as prevalent in arenas is probably due, at least in part, to the lower number of players on a team in all but one bracket.

The system is being abused now to remove competition when selling goods or services.

Is it being abused to remove competition to the extent that it will likely be abused in Classic to remove competition? No. There are significantly more players that are “self sufficient” with massive stables of alts, even spanning multiple realms in some cases, covering all professions at high levels. Add the fact that enchants can now be put on vellum and sold on the AH, sold to other players or mailed to alts and one can even be self sufficient with enchants.

In classic, it will be a while before most players have a large enough stable of alts covering every profession at high levels with the sought after recipes that they can be self sufficient. Even then, they cannot be self sufficient for enchants.

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I suppose your extensive knowledge of RBG’s and their community is how you came about this conclusion? Or could it be, you’re claiming this is the case based on the single example of abuse that was posted?

Evidence please, this looks like another case of “Fesz Fiction time” to me.

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2669

It seems that anything that does not mesh with your desire to have the option to conspire to with other a small number of players to silence (squelch) any other player at any time for whatever little slight you think you had to suffer is obviously a “made up fantasy” in your eyes.

Evidence of these “fantasies” being reality has been presented.

We ca explain it to you, but we cannot understand it for you. We can show you the forest (truth), but we cannot make you open your eyes and SEE the forest (truth).

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2670

Oh boy, here we go again! Fesz Fiction time complete with all the accusations and assumptions we can hope for!

The system will not be abused in the manner you think it will. You have no evidence it will, one video of a system that has been in place for a decade, being abused is not evidence that it will be a problem in Classic WoW.

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2671

I see that your desire for Gold Sellers to endlessly put out their spam into the chat channels has not wavered. I find it very unfortunate that you would oppose this system because you wish to harm the Classic experience by allowing Gold Sellers to run rampant.

It’s unfortunate that this is your desire, as evidenced by your opposition to a system that is primarily in place to combat Gold Selling spam.

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2672

We shall see.

Can you give me tonight’s lottery numbers since you can so clearly see the future?

2673

You’re right, we shall see.

Because this system is going to be in Classic, glad you understand that now.

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All those times I have said that anyone violating the rules (that includes gold sellers, BTW) should be reported and action taken against those offenders means that I want to see gold sellers run rampant and endlessly put out their spam into the chat channels. RIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!

I guess the suggestion I made to make it harder for the system to be abused while retaining the player imposed punishment of an auto squelch by raising the target report number to trigger that player imposed punishment means that I want to see gold sellers run rampant and endlessly put out their spam into the chat channels. RIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!

2675

As I said, that remains to be seen.

2676

How are we going to see if the system is abused in Classic if the system isn’t in Classic?

:thinking:

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Yet, you keep dodging my FACTS and only interested in picking on Fesz, or Posters, in general. You’re NOT conducting in dialogue, whatsoever.

There have been complaints about “abuse”, on PvP Servers. This “abuse” being that Players were being ganked, “a little too much”. This went on for YEARS, before Blizz decided to make PvP Servers obsolete. Now, every Server is a PvE Server. You have to Flag yourself (putting yourself into War Mode), in order to engage in some “PvP” content, like the PvP Servers were, once upon a time.

There have been numerous complaints about “Loot Ninjas”. The Complaints advocating for some kind of change to the Loot System, for years. Now, we have a forced Personal Loot, that intervenes with Soloers farming. You only get a fraction of the Loot. ML is ONLY available in Mythic Raids. So, we don’t have the old Loot System, thanks to those who complained about “Loot Ninjas”, for years!

10 years, of players begging for Classic Servers (or Legacy Servers, in general), and non-stop Posters re-posting/repeating “the wall of ‘no’”, and here we are, getting Classic Servers. After 10 years of begging, pleading and/or complaining.

You can repeat the statement “it’s been this way”, until you’re blue in the face. I just gave you THREE examples, this time, in detail, on why you’re WRONG. Just because “it’s been this way”, doesn’t mean “forever”.

And you can’t say anything else besides that because that’s all you got. I’m telling you, it’s a weak argument, that doesn’t hold up. Come up with some new jargon. Your’s is outdated.

EDIT:

I gave you one, but you didn’t answer it. Lemme ask you, again:

2678

Why look for abuse in a system that is not present?

If the part of the current right click report system (that player imposed punishment) that will likely be abused in Classic is not retained for Classic, then there is no need to look for abuse, is there?

If the player imposed punishment is retained for Classic, and it turns out that we are correct in our belief that it will be abused (even extensively abused) in Classic, will you be here apologizing to us all and admitting that you were wrong when you said it would not be abused in Classic?

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Apparently that poster has a personal vendetta against me, since I have repeatedly proven him wrong.

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Citations please. Correlation does not imply causation.

Citations please. Correlation does not imply causation.

You’re making assumptions and statements about things you don’t even know the facts about.

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Fesz, you stated that we shall see if the system is abused. This statement means that you believe the system is going live.

Instead of responding with emotion like you typically do, read what you post please. You didn’t even spend 30 seconds fact checking your statement about the Burning Crusade release date, at least spend a few seconds reading your own words.

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LOL I DID cite some Complaints about Posters complaining about being ganked too much, earlier in this thread. I’ll do it, again, if you REALLY want me to.

I’m running out of time, but I’ll give the source of these complaints.

I’ll get back to you, later. I have to head into work.

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Correlation does not imply causation. I can provide video evidence from Ion Hazzikostas, with at least one confirmed reason as to why the loot system was changed.

I want you to cite your sources that the loot system and PvP system were changed because of complaints of “Ninjas and gankers”.

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like i said you are crating a fake victim to get your point across ill stand by why i said.i have never been reported since wow launched in 04.

this shouldnt really effect anyone other then big streamers the random joe guy like me wont be effected.i dont care for guild politics or a group of players trying to teach a lesson.

this WILL NOT effect most players.

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2685

sure. but the players it does affect that are unjustly squelched due to the whims of other players is more than enough reason to make it to where a GM and only a GM can mete out punishment.

and yes squelch is a punishment no matter what padrepwn says.

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2686

why am i worried about them as a casual player its not my problem.

it wont effect most of the player base so there for blizzard wont do nothing about it.