He gets paid for every view. i’m not going to promote someone I don’t believe. His premise loses before it starts by saying there are automated bans.
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Do you believe every YouTube video made by a criminal about how the system is the real reason they were convicted of murder and not because of the actual murder?
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They do have anti cheat software that used to be called Warden. It looks for known cheating software and patterns. If your assertion is that it ONLY uses game time played, that would be incorrect.
I wont’ say that very long play time might not be one parameter they look for, but a LOT of people play for very long sessions, esp around new content releases/patches. They don’t get banned magically after some set time frame.
There is more going on, and neither you nor the streamer have knowledge of all the criteria they are using to flag people.
There can be false positives, certainly. In those cases the Hacks team who is responsible for these things, reviews the criteria, adjusts detection methods, unbans people who were accidentally flagged - with an apology. It is not common, but it does happen.
They are not going to share exactly how all that is done though. Jumping on conspiracy trains is easy when you are upset, but it is not helpful and won’t assist in any appeals.
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I went ahead and watched the video, something that I don’t do because it gives the attention they are looking for.
Most of the video he just says “I think” and “I assume”. He provides zero evidence to back up his claims, he is just guessing.
The truth is, he doesn’t know! He doesn’t know how the system works! Of course he’s gonna stir up drama for likes and attention. You have a Blizzard employee in this thread confirming there are no automated bans.
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The only path is via a ticket. There isn’t any way around it, shape or forum. There isn’t a phone number to call, live chat or email to get a hold of someone personally.
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What automated ban? Are they on a private server that uses automated bans? Because, as you’ve been told multiple times and even by a Blizzard employee, there are NO automated bans. It’s a convenient excuse for people who are facing account actions though for sure. Unfortunately, it’s just an excuse.
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No one said that. I just won’t take their word for how things work.
Doesn’t exist.
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And you are being told that there is no such thing as automated bans. So the video is not off topic, you brought it up to try and "prove you’re innocent (something that CAN’T be done here). Your proof is a video on YouTube that boils down to everyone in jail saying they are innocent.
You were given that in the first replies. You continue to appeal. That is your ONLY path. That’s it. Nothing else.
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Only dislike streamers that feed false information just to gain views, more drama the better is their game
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I didn’t even downvote the video, because it’ll feed the algorithm even more.
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There you go again. This “thinking” is what leads to misinformation and accusations.
In here, we deal in facts. Hearing “someone on YouTube said…” is a non-starter. We deal in what the Blizzard employees have publicly stated. If you choose to think they are lying and a random Youtuber who is profiting off your promotion and clicks is telling the truth, there’s not much we can do to change your mind.
But repeating such beliefs as facts will always be met with correct information.
Highly doubtful. Not only are these issues rarely the same, aside from a general “they got an account action and so did I”, but you have a MASSIVE clue given as to why this has happened to you. I highly doubt his “group” all have multiboxing accounts with different names, which is likely a big part of your issue.
I’ll say it: it’s not. Can long playtimes be a red flag? Certainly. But Blizzard’s methods of detecting are much more sophisticated than “I saw them online for 24 hours without a break”.
Also to the OP and anyone else: they do not hand out “speculative” bans. Every single account action has a solid evidential reason to it. It’s not “let’s toss them a ban for some unknown reason and see what happens upon appeal”. You may not agree with the evidence, and the evidence may certainly be faulty, but all account actions are backed up with logs/data that goes well beyond “online for 24 hours”.
I think I can speak for everyone here when I say that we don’t hate streamers. In fact, some of the regulars may actually be streamers themselves. We don’t like people who make wild claims that are not based in reality, especially when they do it for clicks and engagement and ultimately profit.
You have been told by a Blizzard employee that there are no automated bans. If I were you, I’d stop referring to it incorrectly. It is bordering on trolling.
Your path is the same as it’s ever been: open an appeal until they tell you the decision is final. If you’ve already arrived at that point, the matter is done and there is no path.
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This also was a bit troublesome to me, Raksz. Not the typical reaction for an account made in 2005.
Then you shouldn’t be surprised if supreme ‘levels’ of efficiency make you appear to possibly be a bot and draws attention.
Especially when multi-boxing - on licenses where the names don’t match.
I don’t know if these actions will stand or fall, but this isn’t the place - as you’ve already been informed.
False positives can happen, but the crackdown on automation has been ongoing for awhile now. Multiboxing in itself isn’t yet prohibited - but ANY type of automation often associated with it IS prohibited.
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Automatic bans do not exist. Now there’s some automatic things that happen like a squelch which is a very temporary silence pending an investigation, but if anyone is banned it is looked at and approved by a person.
That’s why there is an appeal system: To human is to err as the saying goes, and mistakes happen.
I would follow Orlyah’s advice and try to file a ticket to have all accounts under your name, as even one that shows up under someone else’s license looks suspect even in the best of circumstances.
For the record, I don’t dislike WoW content creators, at least not most. I also know Staysafe is one that ran Naxx on the last day it was available in Classic and didn’t set it to Master Looter in case Corrupted Ashbringer dropped. With obvious results.
I wouldn’t cite that as a source over a blue post or the regulars here as many a content creator has made similar videos without any real proof behind their claims except maybe a squelch.
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thanks for your attention.
I did not automate anything at all and I think the input logs should show that.
is there any other advice you can give me or keyword to add to the appeal? because right now I am just screaming into a dead void asking for help that never comes.
Nope /10 char
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thanks for your participation!
To expand on this, one thing we see a lot of is when a multiboxer just hovers over a window and uses the scroll wheel to perform actions in an inactive client. This falls under automation, as you need to click in the window to make it active before using a keybinding. It’s a very small thing that a lot of multiboxers overlook. Food for thought.
But you’re not. You are getting help every time you open an appeal. They respond every time (provided you haven’t reached the point where they said they would no longer respond).
They haven’t unbanned the account, so you think no help is coming. But reversing it will only happen if they verify a mistake was made. If no mistake was made, they are going to uphold it.
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i clicked into every window.
I did not use any scroll wheel tech.
This has been escalated, what the outcome will be I don’t know, or when the decision may come back.
What you want to do now is put in a ticket and list every one of your accounts that you used a fake name on so they can try to get that sorted for you.
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I sent tickets from the individual accounts.
are you saying I should send one from the main?