Current Class Balancing (DPS) 10/30/24

So sorry your highness, I didn’t realize I was dealing with a child like attention span with a goldfish memory.

Go have your bad faith arguments somewhere else then.

My source is history, yours is incorrectly interpreting statistics.

I know, it could be hard to believe, but even people with a real life are playing the game. So my day has 24 hours with a lot of people in it.

But fine that you keep talking around the actual question instead of just answering it, or that you are feeling insulted by what I said, as if I or our discussion would matter anything to you. Tells me a lot about your personality. :wave:

So will I get a real answer to my question or are we done here?

the fact you didn’t mention like 70% of my post already marks this as checkmate. you are a 0 cr player who played in a season where 2300 was 1700, who only wpvps and tries to judge whats best at the top level of play because of your own subjective “years long knowledge”

you can enjoy your world pvp and nonsense that ww is insane and strong but maybe do that in the gd forums or maybe bg forums but prob even there u would get laughed at bcuz ww also sucks at bgs and usual wide open large wpvp content.

I’m an operations manager for a trucking company, I deal with literal hundreds of different people a day.

Maybe work on your memory some, because if you’re this forgetful at your age now that’s early signs of potential Alzheimer’s in your older years.

I already answered. I’m not going to waste my time answering a question that is currently already in the thread.
Why waste my time when you obviously didn’t bother with it the first time?

And you can remember everything they said, especially when talking to multiple persons at the same time, like I did in this post? Impressive, but I am just a normal human. So could you super hero simply answer the question, instead of wasting my and your time with such posts? :+1:

If you can’t remember my request anymore:

No it marks with I learned my lesson bothering with the doomcryer that is you.
There are better people on the forums that have said the very same things to you and you brushed them off too.
You would argue with Dilly all the time about how monk was weak during times they were strong.

I answered you more than I wanted to bother with.

Which season? there has been multiple.

Who shows signs of a bad memory, should work on it.

Windwalker, you want more detail, just find my posts.

being realistic isn’t really doomcrying you will learn that the moment you will play shuffle or 3v3 above 2.2 for once.

dont think you have any creditability to tell who is good or not because if you would have any you would not even go into a discussion with me as a fellow monk player neither does it have any impact whatsoever since i already mentioned 0 cr wpvp player with 1700 exp

Shadowlands Season 2, honey.

Okay, so beside the at least 3 high rated WW player in this post who said the same like the analysis, let me give you another example:

On the 28th october, 1-2 days before the patch, Lontar made a tierlist based on the changes. He read something about 20% BoK buff etc. and placed it in high A tier. After the patch he then played with Blizo and Fuseton on their monks. Yesterday he updated the tierlist and placed WW into bottom B tier with the words “WW is shît!”

So I am really curious how you could think that WW is in a great spot, especially since you are barely playing it, not to talk about higher ratings.

So you’re saying I only ever got to 2.3 in slands?

Ok.

How exactly am I barely playing it? Because I just got back started again after a 2 year hiatus? Ok.

As for your actual question; first I’ll say streamers are a plague on gaming society. People tend to take their words as sacrosanct, when they have personal/financial stakes in the game to begin with so will never be unbiased.
As for an example I can think of past mage streamers, during an RMP meta, who would cry about mages actually being weak because this and that.

The reason I believe monk is in a good spot is because they’re not paper thin and fall over at the first sign a dps passes wind in their direction.
They’re basic dps outside of cds and procs isn’t the strongest, but it’s not terrible either.
Their full burst is actually pretty strong and shorter cds than most people’s big defensives.

All their cds are short, so the ability to reset between goes is easier than it’s been in a while.

Problem is patience is something a lot of people in this game doesn’t have anymore, they think if you can’t just pve rotation and W key to victory then something is weak.

How many games do you exactly have in 3s and/or RSS on your monk(s) this expansion again? Oh right, none so far!

Mostly about their own classes, that is true. But he is one of the best healers in this game and when he says that WW is bad and he don’t want to play with one, that has more value and I don’t see the bias in there.

But what exactly is your source then of your opinion about WW? Just your own opinion? If so, on what is it based, when you haven’t played WW in 3s / shuffle so far, which are the brackets we are talking about in here.

And fellow players who have higher experience than me.

However, ever heard about the concept of inference?

Gearing a brand new character and doing double dps 2s with someone who also hadn’t played in 2 years, also playing a new character, was able to have an easy time doing games to catch up on conquest cap.

Between also doing bgs, skirms, and some dirty wpvp I can use that limited scope of experience in current expansion and compare it to past seasons WW and make an inference (known as an educated guess) to how WW feels currently.
And then after talking with friends who do have the necessary experience and level I can then combine that to express my opinion.

Who exactly? What top rated player, preferably healer, says that WW is great and he prefers to play with them and hate it to play against them, in their current state?

Sorry, but that has no value in 3s/shuffle! That is like saying an underperforming spec in M+/Raid is acutally good, because you leveled it and felt like it was doing good.

Where did I say that? Point to where I said WW OP.

Sorry you can’t bother to read an entire post.
Once again bad faith arguing.

Where did I said something about OP? I asked for a source and preferably healer, because they of course prefer to play with decent specs. That doesn’t mean they only want to play with OP specs.

I mean, other sources from top rated players are also fine, but often enough you will get people who just want WW to stay bad. Maybe because they are hard to fight against with their class (Lock/Shadow for example) or because they are a direct competitor to their class (Warrior/DH).

Anyways, top rated AWC players agree with what the statistical analysis shows: WW is not doing good enough currently. That has more value for me than your pseudo knowledge based on hearsay from questionable sources. :wink: I hope the devs see it my way and try to improve the situation.

It’s inferred by saying something like

Yes, I, as a person whose only ever known to play monks, want them to be bad.

You figured me out. I’m not a monk main at all, I’ve been in disguise this whole time.

Whatever you say man

I wouldn’t say you are a main of any class in PvP, when you’ve play 20’ish games in 2s so far in the whole season. :wink:

But obviously I wasn’t talking about you, but any source. Just with the hint in general, that not every source is trustworthy based on their opinion for the named reason. A healer instead is a better person to ask. When they like to play with a spec but hate to play against, the spec is usually very decent!

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beast master not doing any cc, nothing, except dps